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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Saeviomagy" data-source="post: 2613222" data-attributes="member: 5890">I really don't see how you can come to this conclusion, unless you play the creature as though it is somehow mentally retarded.The creature is unlikely to drop in only a few rounds if played intelligently - noone will be able to close with it, and most groups only include 1 capable archer, and often that guy is going to have serious problems against a creature requiring dr good AND cold iron.The creature has spell resistance and a decent list of other resistances and immunities.It also has very high move silently and hide skill modifiers.Assuming a standard 4-person iconic party with unusually high stats:I expect the creatures first attack action (2d10+16 damage, average 27) to seriously scare the party wizard (6+(1d4+2)x6 hit points, average 30) if not drop him. If the thing wins initiative, then the wizard is almost certainly dead. At which point the party is dow to their archer to save the day (certainly I don't see them having a hope of closing with a creature that has DD unlimited/day). If the guy is seriously well built (ie - the one given here), he can trade blows for a while, but will eventually lose.</blockquote>