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Improved Grab, Grapple, Constrict, Snatch
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<blockquote data-quote="Brekki" data-source="post: 346347" data-attributes="member: 6617"><p>1. Yes, if the creature with improved grab had 4 attacks from BaB, it could initiate four grapple checks, doing slam and constrict damage with each. Without improved grab it would be 4 unarmed strike and 4 constrict. Constrict is a very dangerous ability.</p><p></p><p>2. By the rules, a dragon with snatch could do the bite damage, and attack with all his other limbs, though I don't think a dragon can attack something in it's mouth with his wings, hind claws, or tail.</p><p></p><p>3. Snatch basically is the same as improved grab. The dragon can start a grapple on any size. It's just the automatic damage part that works only with a size 3 or 4 smaller creature.</p><p></p><p>4.</p><p><em>I think it can. Any creature can make grapple checks as often as his BaB allows. It would seem (to me), a lot more logical then trying to claw at the creature that's half in your mouth.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>So this is like if the Dragon had the Improved Grab feat, isn't it?</em></p><p></p><p>No it isn't. Any creature, no matter what feats can do the grapple checks. You just need snatch or improved grab (or monk) (or constrict) to do the real damage, instead of the unarmed strike subdual.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brekki, post: 346347, member: 6617"] 1. Yes, if the creature with improved grab had 4 attacks from BaB, it could initiate four grapple checks, doing slam and constrict damage with each. Without improved grab it would be 4 unarmed strike and 4 constrict. Constrict is a very dangerous ability. 2. By the rules, a dragon with snatch could do the bite damage, and attack with all his other limbs, though I don't think a dragon can attack something in it's mouth with his wings, hind claws, or tail. 3. Snatch basically is the same as improved grab. The dragon can start a grapple on any size. It's just the automatic damage part that works only with a size 3 or 4 smaller creature. 4. [i]I think it can. Any creature can make grapple checks as often as his BaB allows. It would seem (to me), a lot more logical then trying to claw at the creature that's half in your mouth. So this is like if the Dragon had the Improved Grab feat, isn't it?[/i] No it isn't. Any creature, no matter what feats can do the grapple checks. You just need snatch or improved grab (or monk) (or constrict) to do the real damage, instead of the unarmed strike subdual. [/QUOTE]
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