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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Terry Edwards" data-source="post: 1372028" data-attributes="member: 10978"><p>Reread the description of Improved Grab and you'll see that it's a lot of fun even without the bonus damage of constrict or rake.  First of all it is very easy to start a grapple with improved grab-hit with a melee attack and get a bonus grapple attempt.  Secondly it can grapple a foe with just the improved grabbing body part (at -20) and it is not considered grappled itself.  So move in and Improved Grab the (usually) poor grappling wizard and hold onto him/her while turning other attacks on the rest of the party.  The wizard has to make concentration checks to cast and spend actions to retrieve spell components not to mention that the improved grabber deals appropriate damage for the grappling appendage with each grapple check.  The icing on the cake is that the improved grab creature can freely move while grappling.  It can be very scary for a player when a big nasty creature decides to flee combat taking his/her PC along to nibble at leisure.</p></blockquote><p></p>