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Message: <blockquote data-quote="vmaaxt" data-source="post: 5968901" data-attributes="member: 6696448">Having thought about it more, I think the averaging the rolls method gives a lot of benefit for high init characters. While the difference in the groups rolls won't be that big, it can give a certain character a way to jump in quickly, but not every time. The only way to reward a character who sinks a feat or trait into improving their init (other than having some backup from their friends), is to have them go first sometimes. The only way that I can think to make this happen when rolling a single die for each side, is if PC's roll + character's bonus > other group's roll + their bonus. This would only benefit that one character very rarely, when the rolls were close enough that the pc group bonus was lower than the monster's, but that one character's is higher.Whether this is not for me to decide, just putting it out there.</blockquote>