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Message: <blockquote data-quote="trix" data-source="post: 339971" data-attributes="member: 5337">...Well... not really.   If you're directly refering to the using of a memorised higherlevel spell of type A as lowerlevel spell of memorised type B, then yes.  That increases the strength of wizards.If you're refering to the +X points to allocate about dice n stuff.  Well, you're wrong there.I'll tell you why:In this thread, you've got a player (or dm) creating a higher level magic missile spell.  Now, you've got magic missiles doing 1d8 and 1d10... instead of 1d4.I mean... c'mon.  Then you might aswell adjust 3rd level fireball to become 9th level and have it do Xd12 instead of Xd6.Then u might also go for lightning bolt and make a 9th level version of it, aswell, and have it do Xd12 instead of whatever it does normally.I mean... whats the point of all these custom spells.A simple generic method of making a significantly higher level spell out of a weaker one is to take the level increase in points, and distribute them as modifiers to damage or save penalties or AC benifit provided, or duration.Very simple.A 9th level magic missle would do 1d4+9 (if its origionally 1d4).Now, yes, the average is higher than the origionally mentioned 1d10 that LightPhoenix was thinking was suitable for epic...but c'mon.  even 1d4+9 for a 9th level spell... home of Wish and probably other stuff that does in the region of 100 points of damage.  I dont see a problem with that.I would obviously require the player to research the new spell before the player could cast it.  Simple "upgrades" of spells would be cheaper and quicker to research than researching a whole new spell.Realise, that a 9th level fireball which would do something like 10d6  (what does it do?) +6  ( because its 6 levels higher than 3).Now, realise that +6 do damage is like an extra dice.  Its probably statisticly better to have the +6 to be applied to save penalty instead of damage.Or +3 to save penalty and +3 to radius (where in this case +3 would translate to +3 5' blocks, so its +15' radius.)+30' radius would be quite a good 9th level war spell... for battlefields n stuff.(but there is probably better stuff?)-Tim1d12 that d6, d8, and even possibly d10 damage. Personally I'm thinking 4th, 7th, and Epic</blockquote>

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