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<blockquote data-quote="Deset Gled" data-source="post: 3837009" data-attributes="member: 7808">This whole arguement reminds me of the rogue and kukri debate in early 3.0.&nbsp; For those of you that may not remember, a 3.0 rogue had proficiency with &quot;dagger (any type)&quot;, and the description of a kukri said it was a &quot;heavy, curved dagger&quot;.&nbsp; This lead to a large number of discussions about whether or not a rogue was proficient with a kukri.&nbsp; Does the fact that there are different entries for a kukri and dagger make a difference?&nbsp; Is the flavor text using the word &quot;dagger&quot; sufficient to define the kukri as a dagger, or would it have to be labeled as a &quot;Dagger, Kukri&quot; or &quot;Kukri (Dagger)&quot; to count?&nbsp; Eventually, the question was answered by the sage: no.Whether a rake counts as a claw attack is essentially the exact same arguement.&nbsp; Is the flavor text sufficient reason to count rake attacks as claw attacks?&nbsp; I would say no, and use the previous case as precedent.&nbsp; I agree that it's an annoyingly grey area, though.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Deset Gled, post: 3837009, member: 7808"] This whole arguement reminds me of the rogue and kukri debate in early 3.0. For those of you that may not remember, a 3.0 rogue had proficiency with "dagger (any type)", and the description of a kukri said it was a "heavy, curved dagger". This lead to a large number of discussions about whether or not a rogue was proficient with a kukri. Does the fact that there are different entries for a kukri and dagger make a difference? Is the flavor text using the word "dagger" sufficient to define the kukri as a dagger, or would it have to be labeled as a "Dagger, Kukri" or "Kukri (Dagger)" to count? Eventually, the question was answered by the sage: no. Whether a rake counts as a claw attack is essentially the exact same arguement. Is the flavor text sufficient reason to count rake attacks as claw attacks? I would say no, and use the previous case as precedent. I agree that it's an annoyingly grey area, though. [/QUOTE]

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