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<blockquote data-quote="two" data-source="post: 1340619" data-attributes="member: 9002">Hmmm different resultsHi Korak --I'm using Dr.SpunJ's updated spreadsheet, it's easier for me, a novice, to read and modify.My results differ just a bit. I'm using an archer with minor bracers of archery, and both the archer and the greatsword are &quot;holy&quot; (generally one of the best enchantment types).Assumptions:&nbsp; 50/50 full attack/charge+power attack for the melee guy, 75/25 full attack/single attack for archer (forget about manyshot right now).Results:AC&nbsp; &nbsp; Melee&nbsp; &nbsp; No IRS&nbsp; &nbsp; Imp.RS&nbsp; &nbsp; Difference15&nbsp; &nbsp; 55.8&nbsp; &nbsp; 48.3&nbsp; &nbsp; 48.3&nbsp; &nbsp; 0.016&nbsp; &nbsp; 55.8&nbsp; &nbsp; 48.3&nbsp; &nbsp; 48.3&nbsp; &nbsp; 0.017&nbsp; &nbsp; 55.8&nbsp; &nbsp; 47.6&nbsp; &nbsp; 48.3&nbsp; &nbsp; 0.818&nbsp; &nbsp; 55.8&nbsp; &nbsp; 46.8&nbsp; &nbsp; 48.3&nbsp; &nbsp; 1.519&nbsp; &nbsp; 55.8&nbsp; &nbsp; 46.0&nbsp; &nbsp; 47.6&nbsp; &nbsp; 1.520&nbsp; &nbsp; 55.8&nbsp; &nbsp; 45.3&nbsp; &nbsp; 46.8&nbsp; &nbsp; 1.521&nbsp; &nbsp; 55.8&nbsp; &nbsp; 44.5&nbsp; &nbsp; 46.0&nbsp; &nbsp; 1.522&nbsp; &nbsp; 53.8&nbsp; &nbsp; 42.0&nbsp; &nbsp; 45.3&nbsp; &nbsp; 3.323&nbsp; &nbsp; 51.8&nbsp; &nbsp; 39.4&nbsp; &nbsp; 44.5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5.124&nbsp; &nbsp; 49.8&nbsp; &nbsp; 36.9&nbsp; &nbsp; 42.0&nbsp; &nbsp; 5.125&nbsp; &nbsp; 47.8&nbsp; &nbsp; 34.3&nbsp; &nbsp; 39.4&nbsp; &nbsp; 5.126&nbsp; &nbsp; 36.4&nbsp; &nbsp; 31.8&nbsp; &nbsp; 36.9&nbsp; &nbsp; 5.127&nbsp; &nbsp; 33.4&nbsp; &nbsp; 29.3&nbsp; &nbsp; 34.3&nbsp; &nbsp; 5.128&nbsp; &nbsp; 30.5&nbsp; &nbsp; 26.7&nbsp; &nbsp; 31.8&nbsp; &nbsp; 5.129&nbsp; &nbsp; 27.6&nbsp; &nbsp; 24.2&nbsp; &nbsp; 29.3&nbsp; &nbsp; 5.130&nbsp; &nbsp; 24.6&nbsp; &nbsp; 21.6&nbsp; &nbsp; 26.7&nbsp; &nbsp; 5.131&nbsp; &nbsp; 21.7&nbsp; &nbsp; 19.1&nbsp; &nbsp; 24.2&nbsp; &nbsp; 5.132&nbsp; &nbsp; 18.8&nbsp; &nbsp; 16.5&nbsp; &nbsp; 21.6&nbsp; &nbsp; 5.133&nbsp; &nbsp; 15.8&nbsp; &nbsp; 14.0&nbsp; &nbsp; 19.1&nbsp; &nbsp; 5.134&nbsp; &nbsp; 12.9&nbsp; &nbsp; 11.4&nbsp; &nbsp; 16.5&nbsp; &nbsp; 5.135&nbsp; &nbsp; 10.0&nbsp; &nbsp; 8.9&nbsp; &nbsp; 14.0&nbsp; &nbsp; 5.136&nbsp; &nbsp; 7.0&nbsp; &nbsp; 6.4&nbsp; &nbsp; 11.4&nbsp; &nbsp; 5.137&nbsp; &nbsp; 4.1&nbsp; &nbsp; 3.8&nbsp; &nbsp; 8.9&nbsp; &nbsp; 5.138&nbsp; &nbsp; 1.1&nbsp; &nbsp; 1.3&nbsp; &nbsp; 6.4&nbsp; &nbsp; 5.139&nbsp; &nbsp; -1.8&nbsp; &nbsp; -1.3&nbsp; &nbsp; 3.8&nbsp; &nbsp; 5.140&nbsp; &nbsp; -4.7&nbsp; &nbsp; -3.8&nbsp; &nbsp; 1.3&nbsp; &nbsp; 5.1It's not completely huge, but it's significant.&nbsp; For the AC's the archer really &quot;cares&quot; about (has trouble hitting sometimes, AC &gt;25 or so) the damage increase is 5 per round.&nbsp; Granted, this is spread out over 3 attacks, so it's worse than weapon specialization (assuming 3 arrows hit).&nbsp; On the other hand, it's not much worse, and you don't have to be a fighter4 to take it.&nbsp; It's an &quot;average&quot; damage amount increase, and also helps to critical more often (confirming threats).But, point taken.&nbsp; IRS is good, strong, solid, but not overwhelming.&nbsp; An extra 5 points a round ain't gonna kill anyone.So, maybe it's ok?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="two, post: 1340619, member: 9002"] [b]Hmmm different results[/b] Hi Korak -- I'm using Dr.SpunJ's updated spreadsheet, it's easier for me, a novice, to read and modify. My results differ just a bit. I'm using an archer with minor bracers of archery, and both the archer and the greatsword are "holy" (generally one of the best enchantment types). Assumptions: 50/50 full attack/charge+power attack for the melee guy, 75/25 full attack/single attack for archer (forget about manyshot right now). Results: AC Melee No IRS Imp.RS Difference 15 55.8 48.3 48.3 0.0 16 55.8 48.3 48.3 0.0 17 55.8 47.6 48.3 0.8 18 55.8 46.8 48.3 1.5 19 55.8 46.0 47.6 1.5 20 55.8 45.3 46.8 1.5 21 55.8 44.5 46.0 1.5 22 53.8 42.0 45.3 3.3 23 51.8 39.4 44.5 5.1 24 49.8 36.9 42.0 5.1 25 47.8 34.3 39.4 5.1 26 36.4 31.8 36.9 5.1 27 33.4 29.3 34.3 5.1 28 30.5 26.7 31.8 5.1 29 27.6 24.2 29.3 5.1 30 24.6 21.6 26.7 5.1 31 21.7 19.1 24.2 5.1 32 18.8 16.5 21.6 5.1 33 15.8 14.0 19.1 5.1 34 12.9 11.4 16.5 5.1 35 10.0 8.9 14.0 5.1 36 7.0 6.4 11.4 5.1 37 4.1 3.8 8.9 5.1 38 1.1 1.3 6.4 5.1 39 -1.8 -1.3 3.8 5.1 40 -4.7 -3.8 1.3 5.1 It's not completely huge, but it's significant. For the AC's the archer really "cares" about (has trouble hitting sometimes, AC >25 or so) the damage increase is 5 per round. Granted, this is spread out over 3 attacks, so it's worse than weapon specialization (assuming 3 arrows hit). On the other hand, it's not much worse, and you don't have to be a fighter4 to take it. It's an "average" damage amount increase, and also helps to critical more often (confirming threats). But, point taken. IRS is good, strong, solid, but not overwhelming. An extra 5 points a round ain't gonna kill anyone. So, maybe it's ok? [/QUOTE]

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