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<blockquote data-quote="two" data-source="post: 1342539" data-attributes="member: 9002">This doesn't really qualify, in my opinion, as a very thoughtful post.Nobody is saying archers have no disadvantages; we are pondering if those disadvantages are disadventageous enough. It's easy to play the &quot;ha ha&quot; game, &quot;ha ha&quot; goes the archer, full attacking, as the fighter is mauled by a &quot;improved grappling&quot; dire bear (because the melee fighter had to close to attack).&nbsp; 50 points of damage later, the fighter wishes he was elsewhere.See, it's easy.&nbsp; See, it's rather pointless.I personally, after having run the numbers using spreadsheets supplied by other contributers (note, positive contributers) to this thread, now agree that IRS is not overpowered.&nbsp; I also don't think archers are in an way underpowered, even compared against a boring &quot;raging charging barbarian with a greatsword&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="two, post: 1342539, member: 9002"] This doesn't really qualify, in my opinion, as a very thoughtful post. Nobody is saying archers have no disadvantages; we are pondering if those disadvantages are disadventageous enough. It's easy to play the "ha ha" game, "ha ha" goes the archer, full attacking, as the fighter is mauled by a "improved grappling" dire bear (because the melee fighter had to close to attack). 50 points of damage later, the fighter wishes he was elsewhere. See, it's easy. See, it's rather pointless. I personally, after having run the numbers using spreadsheets supplied by other contributers (note, positive contributers) to this thread, now agree that IRS is not overpowered. I also don't think archers are in an way underpowered, even compared against a boring "raging charging barbarian with a greatsword". [/QUOTE]

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