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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Samhain California" data-source="post: 617808" data-attributes="member: 9044">so you want to counterPermancyLim wishSymbolWishand cantrips?and possibly some cleric spells but im not gonna take the time ot look em upwell throw out wish unless your epic , and your left with :permancy has a casting time fo two rounds, you might be able to counter this spell in other fashionsif lim wish is being used to duplicate a spell effect i would count it as from the school the effect is from for countering purposes.symbol your just out of luck on, personally i would allow miracle,wish and disjunction to autocounter itand i woudl allow universal spells to counter other universal spells</blockquote>