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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hassassin" data-source="post: 5725805" data-attributes="member: 6675228">I forgot the bashing enhancement. A heavy shield with it deals 1d8, which is at least more than armor spikes. It doesn't say if it should stack with shield spikes, though. The +1 is nice, but it costs more than making the 1d6 armor spikes +1 the normal way.(Note that armor spikes are *impossible* to disarm. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />)Does that really require a ruling? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused    :confused:"  data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" />That's in the rules:The same is true for armor spikes and for spikeless shields. A weapon enhancement bonus on the shield wouldn't stack with the +1 from the bashing enhancement.That is indeed an interesting question. It doesn't make much sense that the shield (or armor) wouldn't work for bashing and that's a real advantage in cost.Sure, but it's still not much better than having a shield in hand and using armor spikes for attacks. The bashing ability makes damage marginally better, even if the DM rules it doesn't stack with spikes, but the cost/benefit ratio goes down at higher levels.Two-handed damage is a more significant advantage, and with a high strength caster build might actually make sense.Anyway, thanks for the ideas.</blockquote>

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