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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Grayhawk" data-source="post: 1249472" data-attributes="member: 11288">I know. I started one myself on another board some time ago, presenting the view that Elder-Basilisk holds above, and due to the replies I got then I chose my own stand on this (being that you can trip as an AoO on an attempt to get up.)Now, my only problem with this is, should the defender of this trip attempt get the -4 penalty to his AC for being prone or not?Obviously he isn't really prone, yet he isn't really standing either.It makes sense that it's easier to trip someone on their way up compared to someone already standing, so maybe we should split the difference and make the penalty to AC -2 in this particular situation? (Obviously, this would be a houserule.)</blockquote>