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<blockquote data-quote="Taren Seeker" data-source="post: 2314139" data-attributes="member: 615">That's odd, here's what the PHB pg 141 and the Sovelior/Sage SRD says about trip:So no, not exactly.Yes it does. You posted it in your own quote from the SRD:&quot;As normal for unarmed attacks&quot; means that you provoke unless you have Improved Unarmed Strike.The Weapon entry for Unarmed Strike does not unclude the &quot;You can trip with this&quot; text because it is already specifically stated to in the Trip entry, and IUS states in it's description that you do not provoke when attacking unarmed, which includes unarmed melee touch attacks.A monk can absolutely do this. Trip weapons are classified as such becasue they can hook or otherwise &quot;grab&quot; an opponent so that they can trip them up. You can hook someone just as well with your arm/leg (and not provoke an AOO if you have IUS).BTW, anyone know how you can reply with nested quotes? It took me forever to answer this since all the quotes were cut from the previous post.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Taren Seeker, post: 2314139, member: 615"] That's odd, here's what the PHB pg 141 and the Sovelior/Sage SRD says about trip: So no, not exactly. Yes it does. You posted it in your own quote from the SRD: "As normal for unarmed attacks" means that you provoke unless you have Improved Unarmed Strike. The Weapon entry for Unarmed Strike does not unclude the "You can trip with this" text because it is already specifically stated to in the Trip entry, and IUS states in it's description that you do not provoke when attacking unarmed, which includes unarmed melee touch attacks. A monk can absolutely do this. Trip weapons are classified as such becasue they can hook or otherwise "grab" an opponent so that they can trip them up. You can hook someone just as well with your arm/leg (and not provoke an AOO if you have IUS). BTW, anyone know how you can reply with nested quotes? It took me forever to answer this since all the quotes were cut from the previous post. [/QUOTE]

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