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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 3572718" data-attributes="member: 1656">Right.  He had an attack available as part of his full attack action.  He had choices: he could use this attack to strike with his longsword, or disarm with his longsword; he could drop his longsword and quick draw a dagger to throw; he could drop his longsword and grapple; he could make an unarmed trip; he could kick.He chose to make an unarmed trip, and was successful.Improved Trip now says he can make a melee attack as if he had not used his attack to trip.  He's not limited to kicking; the attack that he used could, had he not used it to trip, also have been used to strike with his longsword.  Since he can attack as if he had not used the attack to trip, he can use it to strike with his longsword.Contrast this with, say, a wolf who has the Improved Trip feat.  He makes a bite attack, and then Trip (Ex) lets him trip his opponent as a free action.  Essentially, Trip (Ex) grants him an attack, with the restriction that it may only be used to trip.He's successful, and so Improved Trip lets him make a melee attack as if he had not used that attack to trip.  But this attack carries a special restriction - it can only be used to trip.  So the melee attack he gets to make, as if he had not used the attack to trip, can only be a trip... and his opponent is already prone.-Hyp.</blockquote>