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Improved TWF, Quickdraw and Thrown Weapons?
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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 1583375" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>PHB p143, under Full Attack.</p><p></p><p><em>If you get multiple attacks because your BAB is high enough, you must make the attacks in order from highest bonus to lowest. <strong>If you are using two weapons, you can strike with either weapon first</strong>. If you are using a double weapon, you can strike with either part of the weapon first.</em></p><p></p><p>It's worth noting that the "Deciding between an Attack and a Full Attack" rule is found only in the Full Attack action section, not the Attack action section. The phrasing, also, makes it clear that it only applies when you are taking the Full Attack action.</p><p></p><p>You cannot take the Attack action, make your attack, then decide to continue with extra attacks instead of moving. Rather, you must take the Full Attack action, make your first attack (with all relevant penalties for TWF, Rapid Shot, Flurry of Blows, etc that you might intend to use for extra attacks in the round), then decide if you wish to forego any extra attacks in exchange for a Move action.</p><p></p><p>So an attack at +10 followed by an off-hand attack at +8 is not possible; the first attack, as part of a FAA, must take the TWF penalty, or the off-hand attack is <em>not available</em> that round.</p><p></p><p>Just like you could not make a shot with a bow at +10, and then decide "Okay, for my next shot I'm using Rapid Shot, so I'll get two more attacks at +8/+3". If you don't take the penalty on the first attack, the Rapid Shot extra attack is unavailable to you.</p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 1583375, member: 1656"] PHB p143, under Full Attack. [i]If you get multiple attacks because your BAB is high enough, you must make the attacks in order from highest bonus to lowest. [b]If you are using two weapons, you can strike with either weapon first[/b]. If you are using a double weapon, you can strike with either part of the weapon first.[/i] It's worth noting that the "Deciding between an Attack and a Full Attack" rule is found only in the Full Attack action section, not the Attack action section. The phrasing, also, makes it clear that it only applies when you are taking the Full Attack action. You cannot take the Attack action, make your attack, then decide to continue with extra attacks instead of moving. Rather, you must take the Full Attack action, make your first attack (with all relevant penalties for TWF, Rapid Shot, Flurry of Blows, etc that you might intend to use for extra attacks in the round), then decide if you wish to forego any extra attacks in exchange for a Move action. So an attack at +10 followed by an off-hand attack at +8 is not possible; the first attack, as part of a FAA, must take the TWF penalty, or the off-hand attack is [i]not available[/i] that round. Just like you could not make a shot with a bow at +10, and then decide "Okay, for my next shot I'm using Rapid Shot, so I'll get two more attacks at +8/+3". If you don't take the penalty on the first attack, the Rapid Shot extra attack is unavailable to you. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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