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<blockquote data-quote="Rystil Arden" data-source="post: 2157947" data-attributes="member: 29014"><p>OK, to give you an anecdotal example, to show that I have considered the effect (if not the cause), I'll tell you the story of Aeoun the Pixie, a PC from one 3.0 campaign I've DMed that I allowed to do what she did at the time (bad idea). </p><p> </p><p>Aeuon the Pixie was a roguish sort, and took some levels in Rogue and then two in Arcane Trickster. Eventually she was confronted with an offer from a ninja thieve's guild, and became a Guild Thief, taking a level in the PrC and then another in Ninja of the Crescent Moon. Unwilling to assassinate targets, she quickly became the group's master of traps, taking a level in Trapmaster, then turned cold-hearted and finally gave in to the urge to become a killer, taking a level in Assassin. She was eventually disgusted, so she resigned to the position of Spymaster, taking a level in that. Eventually, she fled the guild, continuing to level in Ninja.</p><p> </p><p>So what did she get with all those PrCs? Well, all of them gave Sneak Attack at level 1 (except Trickster, which gave it at level 2), so she gained Sneak Attack like your proposed Assassin. But all of them had little real special abilities at level 1, tough prerequisities that wasted every one of her feats and forced her hand on the skill points, and worst of all, no BAB progression at level 1. She was still extraordinarily powerful, just from the Sneak Attack alone.</p><p> </p><p>This was a character in one of my campaigns, and she would have been much worse of a balance problem had she been a human instead of a pixie (the LA helped make her weaker).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rystil Arden, post: 2157947, member: 29014"] OK, to give you an anecdotal example, to show that I have considered the effect (if not the cause), I'll tell you the story of Aeoun the Pixie, a PC from one 3.0 campaign I've DMed that I allowed to do what she did at the time (bad idea). Aeuon the Pixie was a roguish sort, and took some levels in Rogue and then two in Arcane Trickster. Eventually she was confronted with an offer from a ninja thieve's guild, and became a Guild Thief, taking a level in the PrC and then another in Ninja of the Crescent Moon. Unwilling to assassinate targets, she quickly became the group's master of traps, taking a level in Trapmaster, then turned cold-hearted and finally gave in to the urge to become a killer, taking a level in Assassin. She was eventually disgusted, so she resigned to the position of Spymaster, taking a level in that. Eventually, she fled the guild, continuing to level in Ninja. So what did she get with all those PrCs? Well, all of them gave Sneak Attack at level 1 (except Trickster, which gave it at level 2), so she gained Sneak Attack like your proposed Assassin. But all of them had little real special abilities at level 1, tough prerequisities that wasted every one of her feats and forced her hand on the skill points, and worst of all, no BAB progression at level 1. She was still extraordinarily powerful, just from the Sneak Attack alone. This was a character in one of my campaigns, and she would have been much worse of a balance problem had she been a human instead of a pixie (the LA helped make her weaker). [/QUOTE]
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