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<blockquote data-quote="ewert" data-source="post: 723067" data-attributes="member: 10332"><p>The problem seems twofold: AC and mobility.</p><p></p><p>AC:</p><p></p><p>Heavier armor doesn't equal higher AC, especially the higher the player level is. This is due to the max dex bonus. I don't know but I'm bored of armors +x, and nothing much else usually. So, make +1 equivalent armor magical effect that makes the bigger armor more lucrative even with higher dex.</p><p></p><p>Mobility:</p><p></p><p>Medium vs. heavy, medium vs. light, medium feels almost the loser in both accounts, even though it really is worse only to the light armor. So, again, magic can help it.</p><p></p><p>I feel feats wouldn't be quite as logical, the armor is still the same and it is the armor stopping fast movement, not the lack of skill of the user.</p><p></p><p>"of Mobility" armor magic mod, +1 equivalent, available only to medium and heavy armor, bonuses:</p><p>- +2 max dex bonus to AC</p><p>- Makes medium armor equivalent to light armor when considering movement</p><p>- Makes heavy armor equivalent to medium armor when considering movement</p><p></p><p>How it would benefit medium armor:</p><p>Okay this is the category that is "the worst" currently, IMHO. Chuck that modifier on any medium armor, and barring 26 dexterity (18 base, 2 racial or level up, 6 item) you will get one more point of AC with same mobility, but with higher AF and ACP. The possibility of higher AC, with less dex is weighed with the need of feat, higher AF ACP and weight. Sounds okay.</p><p></p><p>Heavy armor:</p><p>Only full plate is a good choice after few levels, so comparing full plate and breastplate: 1 higher max AC, and possible with 10 base dex! (+6 item). Higher AF and ACP of course, and worse movement, but the str/con junkie can get the highest AC with the help of a dex boost item even if he has only 10 base dex, compared to the breastplate person who needs 20 dex, meaning 14 base if we use the +6 item as the norm. End result, full plate is the king of AC, and you don't even need great dex for it. You pay for it with feat, movement, AF ACP and weight. Sounds okay.</p><p></p><p>Your opinions?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ewert, post: 723067, member: 10332"] The problem seems twofold: AC and mobility. AC: Heavier armor doesn't equal higher AC, especially the higher the player level is. This is due to the max dex bonus. I don't know but I'm bored of armors +x, and nothing much else usually. So, make +1 equivalent armor magical effect that makes the bigger armor more lucrative even with higher dex. Mobility: Medium vs. heavy, medium vs. light, medium feels almost the loser in both accounts, even though it really is worse only to the light armor. So, again, magic can help it. I feel feats wouldn't be quite as logical, the armor is still the same and it is the armor stopping fast movement, not the lack of skill of the user. "of Mobility" armor magic mod, +1 equivalent, available only to medium and heavy armor, bonuses: - +2 max dex bonus to AC - Makes medium armor equivalent to light armor when considering movement - Makes heavy armor equivalent to medium armor when considering movement How it would benefit medium armor: Okay this is the category that is "the worst" currently, IMHO. Chuck that modifier on any medium armor, and barring 26 dexterity (18 base, 2 racial or level up, 6 item) you will get one more point of AC with same mobility, but with higher AF and ACP. The possibility of higher AC, with less dex is weighed with the need of feat, higher AF ACP and weight. Sounds okay. Heavy armor: Only full plate is a good choice after few levels, so comparing full plate and breastplate: 1 higher max AC, and possible with 10 base dex! (+6 item). Higher AF and ACP of course, and worse movement, but the str/con junkie can get the highest AC with the help of a dex boost item even if he has only 10 base dex, compared to the breastplate person who needs 20 dex, meaning 14 base if we use the +6 item as the norm. End result, full plate is the king of AC, and you don't even need great dex for it. You pay for it with feat, movement, AF ACP and weight. Sounds okay. Your opinions? [/QUOTE]
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