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<blockquote data-quote="Erechel" data-source="post: 7395647" data-attributes="member: 6784868"><p>Sand in the eyes actually could be a bonus action, with an easy saving throw (DC 10) such as the net. Attempting more than once such a trick could grant advantage to the save. After all, it just adds the blinded condition for one round.</p><p></p><p>What you are describing is an abuse more than an improvisation. Throw big rocks from high ground typically would be ruled by me as an attack with damage+an effect (Strength save to avoid being knocked prone). Needing special packs of rules (EG: spells) to inflict conditions seems a little unfair to me. I can fright someone through intimidation. Why my cold blooded fighter can't?</p><p></p><p>Of course, you have to be fair. You don't need to be better at that than someone who specializes in that. And you need to have a chance to fail, or the target to avoid the tactic. That's what a saving throw is for.</p><p>. .</p><p></p><p></p><p>Extra flourish isn't how I would call it. You are simply doing what people is doing from the beginning of time: taking account of the environment. Sometimes, the environment is disadvantageous. Other times, it provides an edge. If I must fight someone, I would try to bash his head against a surface, or kick the kneecaps, and try to use and abuse any trick I have.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Erechel, post: 7395647, member: 6784868"] Sand in the eyes actually could be a bonus action, with an easy saving throw (DC 10) such as the net. Attempting more than once such a trick could grant advantage to the save. After all, it just adds the blinded condition for one round. What you are describing is an abuse more than an improvisation. Throw big rocks from high ground typically would be ruled by me as an attack with damage+an effect (Strength save to avoid being knocked prone). Needing special packs of rules (EG: spells) to inflict conditions seems a little unfair to me. I can fright someone through intimidation. Why my cold blooded fighter can't? Of course, you have to be fair. You don't need to be better at that than someone who specializes in that. And you need to have a chance to fail, or the target to avoid the tactic. That's what a saving throw is for. . . Extra flourish isn't how I would call it. You are simply doing what people is doing from the beginning of time: taking account of the environment. Sometimes, the environment is disadvantageous. Other times, it provides an edge. If I must fight someone, I would try to bash his head against a surface, or kick the kneecaps, and try to use and abuse any trick I have. [/QUOTE]
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