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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 2174597" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>The 3.5 Main FAQ has this to say:</p><p></p><p><strong>When a character gets up from prone, when does the</strong></p><p><strong>attack of opportunity take place? When he is still prone?</strong></p><p><strong>When he is standing? Can the attacker choose when to</strong></p><p><strong>attack? In one case, the attacker can get a +4 bonus to hit.</strong></p><p><strong>In the other, he can make another trip attack.</strong></p><p></p><p><em>All attacks of opportunity happen before the actions that</em></p><p><em>trigger them (see Chapter 8 in the Player’s Handbook). When</em></p><p><em>you make an attack of opportunity against someone who’s</em></p><p><em>getting up, your target is effectively prone, and therefore cannot</em></p><p><em>be tripped. You could ready an action to trip a prone foe after</em></p><p><em>he gets up, however.</em></p><p></p><p>Of course, the natural response to this is "But what about the AoO provoked by casting a spell? If the AoO happens <em>before</em> the Cast a Spell action, the caster is not damaged while casting a spell, and thus no Concentration check is necessary. If a Concentration check <em>is</em> necessary, it means the AoO happened after the Cast a Spell action was initiated, but before it was resolved... and therefore when you get an AoO on someone who is standing up, it occurs after they have begun to stand, and so you should be abel to Trip them again!"</p><p></p><p>The answer you receive is "Oh, spells are different."</p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 2174597, member: 1656"] The 3.5 Main FAQ has this to say: [b]When a character gets up from prone, when does the attack of opportunity take place? When he is still prone? When he is standing? Can the attacker choose when to attack? In one case, the attacker can get a +4 bonus to hit. In the other, he can make another trip attack.[/b] [i]All attacks of opportunity happen before the actions that trigger them (see Chapter 8 in the Player’s Handbook). When you make an attack of opportunity against someone who’s getting up, your target is effectively prone, and therefore cannot be tripped. You could ready an action to trip a prone foe after he gets up, however.[/i] Of course, the natural response to this is "But what about the AoO provoked by casting a spell? If the AoO happens [i]before[/i] the Cast a Spell action, the caster is not damaged while casting a spell, and thus no Concentration check is necessary. If a Concentration check [i]is[/i] necessary, it means the AoO happened after the Cast a Spell action was initiated, but before it was resolved... and therefore when you get an AoO on someone who is standing up, it occurs after they have begun to stand, and so you should be abel to Trip them again!" The answer you receive is "Oh, spells are different." -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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