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In 2025 FR D&D should PCs any longer be wary of the 'evil' humanoids?
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<blockquote data-quote="Jfdlsjfd" data-source="post: 9735346" data-attributes="member: 42856"><p>Not sure about that. They seemed to carry an initial taint that is impossible to overcome. The films had Saruman create them in vats, I suppose to emphasize their alien character further.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Which doesn't make it right. Killing people in self-defence, why not, but slaughtering enemies, even in the context of war, is a war crime. We never see orc prisonners in the Silmarillion (despite numerous mentions of Melkor taking hordes of prisonners from Men and Elves). It may be a narrative ellipse, it might be that they just slaughter them. It would be coherent with the overall behaviour of Elves, who aren't especially fond of other species.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I am not familiar with the notes related to post-LotR events, but the One Ring Wiki states that : "Following the destruction of the <a href="https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/One_Ring" target="_blank">One Ring</a>, the Orcs scattered, eventually dwindling and being <strong>hunted to extinction (or near-extinction levels)</strong> in the <a href="https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Fourth_Age" target="_blank">Fourth Age</a>."</p><p></p><p>It might be their interpretation, but it sounds like a bona fide genocide if they are people.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think they don't make good "easy to kill" enemies either. They are just behaving with humans the way we behave with food.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jfdlsjfd, post: 9735346, member: 42856"] Not sure about that. They seemed to carry an initial taint that is impossible to overcome. The films had Saruman create them in vats, I suppose to emphasize their alien character further. Which doesn't make it right. Killing people in self-defence, why not, but slaughtering enemies, even in the context of war, is a war crime. We never see orc prisonners in the Silmarillion (despite numerous mentions of Melkor taking hordes of prisonners from Men and Elves). It may be a narrative ellipse, it might be that they just slaughter them. It would be coherent with the overall behaviour of Elves, who aren't especially fond of other species. I am not familiar with the notes related to post-LotR events, but the One Ring Wiki states that : "Following the destruction of the [URL='https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/One_Ring']One Ring[/URL], the Orcs scattered, eventually dwindling and being [B]hunted to extinction (or near-extinction levels)[/B] in the [URL='https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Fourth_Age']Fourth Age[/URL]." It might be their interpretation, but it sounds like a bona fide genocide if they are people. I think they don't make good "easy to kill" enemies either. They are just behaving with humans the way we behave with food. [/QUOTE]
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