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Message: <blockquote data-quote="triqui" data-source="post: 5525954" data-attributes="member: 57948">Which is my point: sometimes, people heal. That's a fact. So it's not surprising that, sometimes, people who ussually go to Lourdes heal too. Just like some of those people that spontanously heal like country music. That show no correlation to "listening country music heal people". To say that, you need a statistically relevant number. If 4 guys healed they cancer, among the millions that have visited Lourdes, I can claim, without any doubt, that visiting Lourdes is unrelated to healing.Compare that to:There you go. But there IS a statistically important number of people with goiter out of the group of "people who chew seaweed" compared to the group that "do not". So, even when we did not know the *cause* of that, we can make such claim. It's not the same case that Lourdes, where there is not a statisitically relevant evidence of correlation, just a logic-flawed fallacy of "post hoc ergo propter hoc". It's so ridicoulus as saying that having a black pressident in the US make the world more vulnerable to earthquakes, becouse Chile and Japan ones happened with Obama as president. That I was born, and then Vietnam become a Socialist Republic is an observed and true fact. That both are related, however, is not. That someone, somewhere, once in the history went to Lourdes (or a Homeopath for that matter), and healed, might be an observed fact. That he healed becouse of it is a completely different issue.</blockquote>

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