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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 5718191" data-attributes="member: 6669384"><p>Actually, the order was, "Don't concern yourself with what you just saw, and go on about your business."</p><p></p><p>He detected high level Evil. That can come from Demonic presence, and Evil Outsider, an Evil cleric, an Undead, or some form of possession. All quite viable suspicions, so there's no guarantee that the Cleric immediately concluded "Vampire", or even "enemy". </p><p></p><p>He wasn't ordered to lie to anyone about anything, but rather to ignore something he'd seen. A subtle distinction, but the essence of using the Vampiric power without getting caught is to use it subtly. And Vampires who get caught get driven out or killed.</p><p></p><p>Yeah, I know, it's a subtle sledgehammer, but you'd have to expect a Vampire to be well practiced with one of his main powers. According to most books, Renfield was a failure, a man whose mind was broken by too harsh an application of the power. He saw too much when he was in Transylvania, and Dracula used too heavy a hand in controlling him. It broke his mind. The power Dracula exerted over Mina Harker was a lot more subtle. All he asked her to do was open her windows and invite him in, and then afterward pretend that it didn't happen. "Go about your business."</p><p></p><p>The only measure Van Helsing had to notice this by was that she was weak and anemic, even though he knew what Dracula was, and that he was around.</p><p></p><p>She was anything but a zombie/slave.</p><p></p><p>On the subject of 100+ dominated people... He doesn't have that many, I was just saying that he could if he needed to. 10 rounds a day refreshing a link? The biggest challenge would be the bookwork of keeping track of who's up for a booster shot. The actual time needed is one minute.</p><p></p><p>To compare, you'll probably spend more time than that reading and thinking about this post.</p><p></p><p>As for spying, all he has to do is pick one of the PCs he owns and step into the driver's seat. Then have him ask, "Okay, so what's the plan again?". The spell says that he'll experience his victim's sensory input, as understood by the victim, but won't actually be able to see through is eyes. </p><p></p><p>To me that says he won't hear the exact words, but will instead get what the target understands of what's said, better than having the conversation repeated from memory, but not as good as actually being there. No "Sense Motive" through the link because he can't hear voice inflections or catch the subtleties of body language. He has to rely on the victim's observation abilities and skills for that sort of thing.</p><p></p><p>In any case. we'll see how it plays out. Our game is on Sunday and that's when the whole thing comes crashing down, one way or another.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 5718191, member: 6669384"] Actually, the order was, "Don't concern yourself with what you just saw, and go on about your business." He detected high level Evil. That can come from Demonic presence, and Evil Outsider, an Evil cleric, an Undead, or some form of possession. All quite viable suspicions, so there's no guarantee that the Cleric immediately concluded "Vampire", or even "enemy". He wasn't ordered to lie to anyone about anything, but rather to ignore something he'd seen. A subtle distinction, but the essence of using the Vampiric power without getting caught is to use it subtly. And Vampires who get caught get driven out or killed. Yeah, I know, it's a subtle sledgehammer, but you'd have to expect a Vampire to be well practiced with one of his main powers. According to most books, Renfield was a failure, a man whose mind was broken by too harsh an application of the power. He saw too much when he was in Transylvania, and Dracula used too heavy a hand in controlling him. It broke his mind. The power Dracula exerted over Mina Harker was a lot more subtle. All he asked her to do was open her windows and invite him in, and then afterward pretend that it didn't happen. "Go about your business." The only measure Van Helsing had to notice this by was that she was weak and anemic, even though he knew what Dracula was, and that he was around. She was anything but a zombie/slave. On the subject of 100+ dominated people... He doesn't have that many, I was just saying that he could if he needed to. 10 rounds a day refreshing a link? The biggest challenge would be the bookwork of keeping track of who's up for a booster shot. The actual time needed is one minute. To compare, you'll probably spend more time than that reading and thinking about this post. As for spying, all he has to do is pick one of the PCs he owns and step into the driver's seat. Then have him ask, "Okay, so what's the plan again?". The spell says that he'll experience his victim's sensory input, as understood by the victim, but won't actually be able to see through is eyes. To me that says he won't hear the exact words, but will instead get what the target understands of what's said, better than having the conversation repeated from memory, but not as good as actually being there. No "Sense Motive" through the link because he can't hear voice inflections or catch the subtleties of body language. He has to rely on the victim's observation abilities and skills for that sort of thing. In any case. we'll see how it plays out. Our game is on Sunday and that's when the whole thing comes crashing down, one way or another. [/QUOTE]
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