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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kalendraf" data-source="post: 2077293" data-attributes="member: 3433">I know I killed a number of 1st level 1e characters back when I was a much younger DM, but those weren't what I would call serious games either.Since then, I don't remember killing any PCs on the very first night of play, but that's probably because the first session is usually half spent creating characters, introducing them to each other and setting up the first adventure thru roleplay.  So any combat at all in the very first session of a new campaign is somewhat uncommon for me.  My campaigns tend to last several years, though.I do recall killing a 1st level PC at the 2nd session of a 2e game.  It was an elf fighter who had the misfortune of being on the wrong end of some good DM rolls for the enemy (bandits, I think).  He'd put such an incredible amount of work into his backstory that I wound up coming up with an excuse to get him brought back from the dead.  Though looking back at it now, it would have probably been better to just let him remain dead.In the first 3e campaign I ran, I nearly wiped out a 2nd level party with 3 ghouls.  They were short a player that night (so 4 instead of 5), but what made it really bad was it was their cleric!  As they began to explore the ruined half-buried building that served as the ghouls' lair, they didn't make their spot checks either and they pretty much wandered into an ambush.  After just the 1st round of combat, 2 of the characters were paralyzed, and before the end of the battle, another character got paralyzed as well.  The last PC that survived, barely did so, but he was able to deal enough damage to defeat the last ghoul.  It was my first time running ghouls in 3e, and I was still kind of new to the whole EL/CR thingy.  On the bright side, it was a very memorable encounter, and they really started to fear undead in 3e after that.</blockquote>

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