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<blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 8363861" data-attributes="member: 4348">Another reason for those who LIKE the older versions of D&amp;D....They actually think the RULES ARE BETTER.This can apply to old AND new players...not just those who have nostalgia.A prime example...HG Wells LIttle Wars was written DECADES before I even existed, and yet, I LOVE the rules.&nbsp; They are simplistic and yet elegant rules for running miniature games of all sorts.&nbsp; They are better than MANY of the modern miniature wargames that have been created and it's a shame that not as many play it.Now...I had no prior experience with these rules before I learned of them later in life.&nbsp; I had played many wargames before that...so it wasn't really nostalgia that drove me.&nbsp; It wasn't because it was comfortable or I loved history, it had nothing to do with children or elders respecting each other.&nbsp; I knew the more &quot;modern&quot; wargames and I enjoyed the older rules better.Sometimes, one just likes what they like...no nostalgia or other things needed.I don't buy your defences on Grognardism because they are not really defences at all, just explaining what your opinion or idea of why Grognards feel the way they do (and ironically, Grognard used to be a term wargamers would say could NEVER apply to strict RPG gamers as it was a wargaming term...).And on that note, the only thing to defend about Grognardism is experience (hopefully) in that they are the older guys who have seen a bit more than the younger guys...it's not about nostalgia, it's about experiences in life and hobby.Sometimes that experience talks wisdom...and sometimes it's just foolishness.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GreyLord, post: 8363861, member: 4348"] Another reason for those who LIKE the older versions of D&D.... They actually think the RULES ARE BETTER. This can apply to old AND new players...not just those who have nostalgia. A prime example... HG Wells LIttle Wars was written DECADES before I even existed, and yet, I LOVE the rules. They are simplistic and yet elegant rules for running miniature games of all sorts. They are better than MANY of the modern miniature wargames that have been created and it's a shame that not as many play it. Now...I had no prior experience with these rules before I learned of them later in life. I had played many wargames before that...so it wasn't really nostalgia that drove me. It wasn't because it was comfortable or I loved history, it had nothing to do with children or elders respecting each other. I knew the more "modern" wargames and I enjoyed the older rules better. Sometimes, one just likes what they like...no nostalgia or other things needed. I don't buy your defences on Grognardism because they are not really defences at all, just explaining what your opinion or idea of why Grognards feel the way they do (and ironically, Grognard used to be a term wargamers would say could NEVER apply to strict RPG gamers as it was a wargaming term...). And on that note, the only thing to defend about Grognardism is experience (hopefully) in that they are the older guys who have seen a bit more than the younger guys...it's not about nostalgia, it's about experiences in life and hobby. Sometimes that experience talks wisdom...and sometimes it's just foolishness. [/QUOTE]

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