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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Immortal Sun" data-source="post: 7553802">Maybe.  And there's nothing wrong with that.  I think minions help facilitate certain more "cinematic" elements of gameplay, such as the assassin taking out the guard with a single neck snap.  Without special corner-case rules to facilitate such an event, this can't happen in say, 5E or 3.5/PathfinderThough I think the "ogre minion" commentary feels a little corner-casey to me.  I tend to use minions for hordes, zombies, kobolds, humanoid armies.  Sure, you can make a minion for everything, (minion dragon whelps was arguably the most adroable death trap I ever made) but I do tend to agree there's a point where it's just too big, too powerful or too something to be a minion, at least in comparison to the players.  I wouldn't argue against an ogre minion and a 20th level player.  Even a regular ogre wouldn't pose much challenge.And I am most certainly not a simulationist.  Even though I love 3.5, I love it because it's like legos, you can put together almost anything with a little creativity and elbow grease.  But 4E strikes me as a little more "cinematic" and I agree with the "wuxia" commentary I've heard in the past, though I enjoy that it certainly has it's place in things.  But I'm sort of a system agnostic.  I'll play almost anything and there's very little on the game side of things that can slow down my ability to get immersed in a game.  It's either the DM sucks at setting the scene or the other players won't shut up about football.</blockquote>

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