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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 7556275" data-attributes="member: 48965"><p>Well I don't think anything is missing but instead it's that something was added, a particular playstyle (long intricate grid based combat) was excessively catered too (while not being transparently called out) and there were consequences for many people who didn't enjoy or change their game to accommodate said playstyle. </p><p></p><p>The fact that combats would now take an hour + for setup and resolution and that we only had 3-4 hours to play had a pretty big impact on the combat to everything else ratio... especially when trying to run a game in the vein of prior editions where one could complete numerous combats in a much smaller timeframe. Now what I've noticed is that those who enjoy 4e's combat as the centerpiece of their gaming tend to dismiss or downplay the effect it had on the rest of the game's pillars for others who either disliked 4e's combat or found it meh. For those people the combat in 4e took up an inordinate amount of time, slowed the progress of their games, and allowed for less time (compared to previous D&D play) for social interaction, exploration, etc.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 7556275, member: 48965"] Well I don't think anything is missing but instead it's that something was added, a particular playstyle (long intricate grid based combat) was excessively catered too (while not being transparently called out) and there were consequences for many people who didn't enjoy or change their game to accommodate said playstyle. The fact that combats would now take an hour + for setup and resolution and that we only had 3-4 hours to play had a pretty big impact on the combat to everything else ratio... especially when trying to run a game in the vein of prior editions where one could complete numerous combats in a much smaller timeframe. Now what I've noticed is that those who enjoy 4e's combat as the centerpiece of their gaming tend to dismiss or downplay the effect it had on the rest of the game's pillars for others who either disliked 4e's combat or found it meh. For those people the combat in 4e took up an inordinate amount of time, slowed the progress of their games, and allowed for less time (compared to previous D&D play) for social interaction, exploration, etc. [/QUOTE]
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