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<blockquote data-quote="The Crimson Binome" data-source="post: 7603884" data-attributes="member: 6775031"><p>I said that you can explain HP and damage consistently by saying that a given amount of damage represents an objectively quantifiable amount of force, which is true. An arrow that imparts 8 units of force, will impart that same amount of force whether it hits someone with 6hp or 600hp. The <em>only</em> difference is whether or not the impact causes the victim to drop.</p><p></p><p>You can say that's how it is, but you're wrong; that's how it is <em>at your table.</em> Your table is no more representative of the collective experience than mine is. We'll never come to any peace here unless we accept that other people played differently.</p><p></p><p>If a game wants to call itself an RPG, rather than a wargame, then I'm going to subject it to higher standards of scrutiny. If you don't care about that sort of thing, then fine, but there's a good reason why 4E was such an utter failure of an RPG and this matter is at the heart of it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Crimson Binome, post: 7603884, member: 6775031"] I said that you can explain HP and damage consistently by saying that a given amount of damage represents an objectively quantifiable amount of force, which is true. An arrow that imparts 8 units of force, will impart that same amount of force whether it hits someone with 6hp or 600hp. The [I]only[/I] difference is whether or not the impact causes the victim to drop. You can say that's how it is, but you're wrong; that's how it is [I]at your table.[/I] Your table is no more representative of the collective experience than mine is. We'll never come to any peace here unless we accept that other people played differently. If a game wants to call itself an RPG, rather than a wargame, then I'm going to subject it to higher standards of scrutiny. If you don't care about that sort of thing, then fine, but there's a good reason why 4E was such an utter failure of an RPG and this matter is at the heart of it. [/QUOTE]
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