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Message: <blockquote data-quote="UniversalMonster" data-source="post: 173641" data-attributes="member: 1034">There are an awful lot of idiots out there.This is the thing: if anything, the pie (for everyone, d20 and non-d20) is larger now than it was in 1999. This is directly due to the juice from D&D3's release and the open gaming movement. What is upsetting for a lot of gamers is that D&D used to be the game everyone felt free to ignore and marginalize. It was the lowest common denominator. We are a community of a lot of extremes: many gamers are really very talented creative geniuses. There is also the "bad gamer" stereotype- we all know exactly who this guy is. For many people- the bad gamer is synomous with a D&D player. Ironically- the people that squeal the loudest about how we D&D players are such a menace ARE the bad gamer stereotype. They epitomize the kind of lifelong failure, lack of vision, poor social skills-havin', and more often than not bad personal hygiene stankin'  that they would like to brand D&D players with. Well, anyhow. Now D&D3/d20 is the biggest thing going. D&D/d20 players are getting everything they want- we get the best writers, new products practically every week are released just for us, and companies are going out of their way to try and interest d20 players in their games with d20 conversions. And it's working- I wouldn't ever have touched L5R or Deadlands or ever gone back to Chaosium's horrible BRP system if it hadn't been redone with a system I was comfortable with. So it's a combination of things. Intense jealousy, false perceptions that we're "lower" gamers, false perception that we are "taking over" and just plain bad social skills. There is also a weird belief that floats around in various places on the internet that playing a different game will (somehow) make you a better gamer. It's laughably false, but the people who believe in it, believe in it loudly and fervently. Luckily enough, these are usually the gamers that just hang around on gaming websites and talk about theory rather than actually play much. In the end, nothing seperates "us" from "then" other than personal preference.And OH YEAH, I'll go ahead and say it- I only buy d20 stuff now. I used to get everything (EVERYTHING), but at this point, this is the best stuff going, and I play in two games a week. (Run one, play in one). I almost broke down and bought Adventure! for a second and then that Polyhedron Pulp Hero special came out. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> And thats more my style.. I don't like the overwrought White Wolf settings, I like to develop my own.</blockquote>

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