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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JohnNephew" data-source="post: 175078" data-attributes="member: 2171">Since my claims were pretty broad, let me call it a personal estimation -- but I think it's a fairly educated one, based on being in the business for a few years.  Nobody publishes specific sales figures or print runs, but with some discreet inquiries you get a sense of where the chips have been falling.  I've also seen some very specific numbers in the course of considering business opportunities (such as the purchase of game lines, involving a review of historical sales).I'm pretty sure that the core books combined have passed the million mark.  In whispered conversations I've heard estimates of the PHB being in the 600,000-1 million units range (but presumably it has continued to sell since I heard such estimates); I haven't seen anyone definitively say that it's passed the million mark yet.In any case, I agree, these numbers don't detract from the point you were making (and perhaps reinforce it).  I just often find folks make assumptions about the sales of games that are off by an order of magnitude, and so wanted to step in and act like Mr. Know-It-All.  ;-)It's a valid assumption for us at Atlas, at least, Clark.  Early D20 profits did us a lot of good on the whole, offsetting a downturn in the market (the Pokemon cash crunch), giving us more working capital in general (allowing us to do things like reprint Lunch Money and Once Upon A Time faster than usual), and helping me publish at least one book that I expected to lose money but had promised to a game's fans (and the book's writers) years ago.</blockquote>

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