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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 5617944" data-attributes="member: 957"><p>No, that is NOT an option because he is talking about MY experiences. I accept his experiences as real and quite different than mine. </p><p></p><p>There is the concept called "relative". I have numerous times comments on issues where 3E could be better in this regard. But 4E very intentionally lurched in this direction. And, more importantly, the design concept behind 3E attempts to avoid this while 4E actively embraces it. Which IS NOT to say that this is bad. Only that it is different. And not what a lot of people like. A lot of people LOVE it. But a lot see it as a serious flaw as well.</p><p></p><p>Oh, I agree that a lot of non-3E fans will say that. Of course, I've had a lot of 3E haters tell me about how their eyes bleed or they get migraines at the thought of trying to run 3E. </p><p></p><p>I agree that 3E CAN be run in a manner that ignores simulation.</p><p>I also agree that some people clearly find keeping up with running 3E in a manner that embraces the simulation to be stressful and not fun.</p><p></p><p>But when you tell me about my game, you are simply amusing. You have no idea what happens in my game. And your statements about it are wrong.</p><p></p><p>Do I get to start telling you what you are ignoring in your games? Are you going to go on record right now and say that I can decree anything I want and you will accept that as truth? </p><p>I didn't think so.</p><p></p><p>It appears you have a deep NEED to believe that I'm ignoring things. Which is pretty telling.</p><p></p><p>I do experience issues in 3E that I wish were better. In a few cases I've actually house-rules to fix them. In some cases it is better to grin an bear it. But the great majority of the time, these issues don't come into play. Again, if you (a) stop trying to tell me about myself and (b) stop trying to put relative issues in only black and white categories, then, just maybe, you will see the distinction.</p><p></p><p>And if all you have as an argument is to tell me that I don't know about my own games, then you are lost. But, that is true the moment you try to insist that there are not significant differences between the games here.</p><p></p><p></p><p>My 3E simulation games ROCK.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 5617944, member: 957"] No, that is NOT an option because he is talking about MY experiences. I accept his experiences as real and quite different than mine. There is the concept called "relative". I have numerous times comments on issues where 3E could be better in this regard. But 4E very intentionally lurched in this direction. And, more importantly, the design concept behind 3E attempts to avoid this while 4E actively embraces it. Which IS NOT to say that this is bad. Only that it is different. And not what a lot of people like. A lot of people LOVE it. But a lot see it as a serious flaw as well. Oh, I agree that a lot of non-3E fans will say that. Of course, I've had a lot of 3E haters tell me about how their eyes bleed or they get migraines at the thought of trying to run 3E. I agree that 3E CAN be run in a manner that ignores simulation. I also agree that some people clearly find keeping up with running 3E in a manner that embraces the simulation to be stressful and not fun. But when you tell me about my game, you are simply amusing. You have no idea what happens in my game. And your statements about it are wrong. Do I get to start telling you what you are ignoring in your games? Are you going to go on record right now and say that I can decree anything I want and you will accept that as truth? I didn't think so. It appears you have a deep NEED to believe that I'm ignoring things. Which is pretty telling. I do experience issues in 3E that I wish were better. In a few cases I've actually house-rules to fix them. In some cases it is better to grin an bear it. But the great majority of the time, these issues don't come into play. Again, if you (a) stop trying to tell me about myself and (b) stop trying to put relative issues in only black and white categories, then, just maybe, you will see the distinction. And if all you have as an argument is to tell me that I don't know about my own games, then you are lost. But, that is true the moment you try to insist that there are not significant differences between the games here. My 3E simulation games ROCK. [/QUOTE]
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