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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 5627412" data-attributes="member: 957">I don't doubt it.Well, you have quoted my direct response to a comment about 3E characters throwing themselves off cliffs and you are somehow making that be about events in your 4E game.As I have said, if you take every event in 4E and look at in in isolation, you can always come up with a perfectly valid explanation.    But if you look at the patterns that surface due to the mechanics, then the validity falls away.  And because we are playing a game and know the mechanics are there, that pattern surfaces on the very first use.You are switching out different ideas for the point I am making.  You can "pursue" any story you want.  I don't dispute that.  But the events that happen along that path will be informed by the mechanics, rather than the mechanics being informed by the story.  Yes, you can come up with virtually limitless ways to rationalize why the narrative works out in a way that matches the powers system.  But the instant you are expected to do that, THERE is the problem.Several times over the past months I have expressed this issue and several times you have responded with examples of how it is easy.  I agree.  It is easy.  Easy or hard is not the question.  You have not resolved my issue.  And I really don't think you can.  Adjusting the plot to meet the mechanics is as fundamental to 4E as putting shapes in squares is to tic tac toe.</blockquote>