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<blockquote data-quote="Pentius" data-source="post: 5634861" data-attributes="member: 6676736">If I recall pemerton's example correctly, with Baleful Polymorph A did equal B by default.&nbsp; Allowing the npc wizard to do more with it outside of combat is the same thing, in essence, as allowing your wizard with the Hypnotism power to do Hypnoticy stuff outside combat.&nbsp; I think he also alluded to having a more permanent version as a ritual, which would be mechanically a different option than the specific Baleful Polymorph power.And a note on these sorts of rulings and/or houserules.&nbsp; You keep mentioning being afraid of breaking the balance, but I think that is something you can relax on.&nbsp; The game designers didn't hand out daze and such on an at will basis, but they also have different design considerations than a DM making a ruling or house rule.&nbsp; The game designers need to make a game playable by many people, including those who absolutely will abuse abusable things if they can.&nbsp; At your table, though, the house rule only needs to be balanced against the players present.&nbsp; It doesn't really matter if a houserule could be abused, only if the players do abuse it.&nbsp; Even then, when making houserules, I generally go with a disclaimer like, &quot;We're gonna try doing it like this, but if you guys abuse this nice new toy I am giving you, I will take it away.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Pentius, post: 5634861, member: 6676736"] If I recall pemerton's example correctly, with Baleful Polymorph A did equal B by default. Allowing the npc wizard to do more with it outside of combat is the same thing, in essence, as allowing your wizard with the Hypnotism power to do Hypnoticy stuff outside combat. I think he also alluded to having a more permanent version as a ritual, which would be mechanically a different option than the specific Baleful Polymorph power. And a note on these sorts of rulings and/or houserules. You keep mentioning being afraid of breaking the balance, but I think that is something you can relax on. The game designers didn't hand out daze and such on an at will basis, but they also have different design considerations than a DM making a ruling or house rule. The game designers need to make a game playable by many people, including those who absolutely will abuse abusable things if they can. At your table, though, the house rule only needs to be balanced against the players present. It doesn't really matter if a houserule could be abused, only if the players do abuse it. Even then, when making houserules, I generally go with a disclaimer like, "We're gonna try doing it like this, but if you guys abuse this nice new toy I am giving you, I will take it away." [/QUOTE]

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