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<blockquote data-quote="GameOgre" data-source="post: 6994222" data-attributes="member: 57914">In fact,INSERT RULES HERE was a key part of the 3rd edition, and it means 5th edition is still missing full support for this previous edition.I keep seeing this over and over in tons of different forms. Posters wanting 5E to give them all the rule support of other editions. There seems to be a feeling that 5E just needs MORE.This chasing of MORE is fine but i think it's important to realize that it leads to Rules Heavy Games like Pathfinder or indeed 3.5Now there is nothing wrong with those types of games. I love Pathfinder and 3.5 D&amp;D.I also love 5E for what it is though and don't want to change it.I think some D&amp;D fans,even those that like 5E, have a subconscious desire for the comfort of what they had before.They want 5E to have more and more and more and although praise it for trimming the game down and making it so easy to run secretly believed/wanted&nbsp; it would bloat out to give them the security of (FULL SUPPORT) that the other style games have.I think this is a issue we need to deal with. Because we can easily turn into our own worst enemy and turn 5E into 6E with 3 players handbooks and splat books and rules upon rules.* In short, I think it's a good thing that 5E is missing the rules from 3.5 edition and hope it never gains them.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GameOgre, post: 6994222, member: 57914"] In fact,INSERT RULES HERE was a key part of the 3rd edition, and it means 5th edition is still missing full support for this previous edition. I keep seeing this over and over in tons of different forms. Posters wanting 5E to give them all the rule support of other editions. There seems to be a feeling that 5E just needs MORE. This chasing of MORE is fine but i think it's important to realize that it leads to Rules Heavy Games like Pathfinder or indeed 3.5 Now there is nothing wrong with those types of games. I love Pathfinder and 3.5 D&D. I also love 5E for what it is though and don't want to change it. I think some D&D fans,even those that like 5E, have a subconscious desire for the comfort of what they had before. They want 5E to have more and more and more and although praise it for trimming the game down and making it so easy to run secretly believed/wanted it would bloat out to give them the security of (FULL SUPPORT) that the other style games have. I think this is a issue we need to deal with. Because we can easily turn into our own worst enemy and turn 5E into 6E with 3 players handbooks and splat books and rules upon rules. * In short, I think it's a good thing that 5E is missing the rules from 3.5 edition and hope it never gains them. [/QUOTE]

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