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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 6998825" data-attributes="member: 12731"><p>I have zero problems with posters posting actual houserule suggestions. </p><p></p><p>I have large problems with posters posting posts to the effect of </p><p>- there is no problem</p><p>- running as intended</p><p>- wotc has changed direction</p><p>- you can fix it yourself you know</p><p></p><p>Why? Because that does not bring me any closer to a resolution. Just accepting a deficiency (or worse, apologizing for WotC's inability to provide official support) gets me nowhere.</p><p></p><p>So the difference is: "have you tried adding X to Y, or have you tried replacing M with N" is constructive. </p><p></p><p>Merely repeating the truism "don't complain, WotC doesn't prevent you from fixing it" isn't. Don't just say "you can houserule". I already know this. Stop telling us things everybody already know. Say what specific houserule you suggest.</p><p></p><p>Saying things like "you don't need X, you just need to play differently" or "you can always make up Y on the fly" are thoroughly unwelcome. These posts question the very premise of the thread. In my opinion, such posters should be moderated harshly, since all they do is add to the acrimonity of the forum.</p><p></p><p>For instance, if there's a thread "5E needs more knitting rules". It's completely natural for such a thread to include arguments why WotC should publish "The Utterly Complete Guide to Knitting for Fighters, Wizards and everyone else" so we don't have to make up our own houserules. </p><p></p><p>The one thing such a thread does <strong>not</strong> need is posts to the effects of </p><p>- there is no problem</p><p>- running as intended</p><p>- wotc has changed direction</p><p>- you can fix it yourself you know</p><p></p><p>If that's what you feel; it's much better, more considerate, and much more to the point, to start a separate thread called "Why Fighters Don't Need to Knit" or something, where you can discuss with likeminded without coming across as derailing, trolling or similar in the first thread.</p><p></p><p>I sincerely hope ENWOrld will start experimenting with "plus threads" where we can finally report posts that aren't posted in the spirit of the OP. </p><p></p><p>Of course, other people are free to start such threads as well. The question is: will they? </p><p></p><p>After all, there exists a group that <em>won't</em> benefit from such a moderation change is the group of posters that seldom contribute anything themselves but mostly visit to post in other people's threads, and then mostly only to argue against the premise of those threads. (This would be a very good thing <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />)</p><p></p><p>As a closing remark: From my perspective, the fact we are now undeniably discussing something else than the problem of D&D supplying gold but providing only downtime options for spending it, means <em>someone</em> has successfully derailed the thread. I emphatically wish this was considered bad form, and something moderators would act upon if reported.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 6998825, member: 12731"] I have zero problems with posters posting actual houserule suggestions. I have large problems with posters posting posts to the effect of - there is no problem - running as intended - wotc has changed direction - you can fix it yourself you know Why? Because that does not bring me any closer to a resolution. Just accepting a deficiency (or worse, apologizing for WotC's inability to provide official support) gets me nowhere. So the difference is: "have you tried adding X to Y, or have you tried replacing M with N" is constructive. Merely repeating the truism "don't complain, WotC doesn't prevent you from fixing it" isn't. Don't just say "you can houserule". I already know this. Stop telling us things everybody already know. Say what specific houserule you suggest. Saying things like "you don't need X, you just need to play differently" or "you can always make up Y on the fly" are thoroughly unwelcome. These posts question the very premise of the thread. In my opinion, such posters should be moderated harshly, since all they do is add to the acrimonity of the forum. For instance, if there's a thread "5E needs more knitting rules". It's completely natural for such a thread to include arguments why WotC should publish "The Utterly Complete Guide to Knitting for Fighters, Wizards and everyone else" so we don't have to make up our own houserules. The one thing such a thread does [B]not[/B] need is posts to the effects of - there is no problem - running as intended - wotc has changed direction - you can fix it yourself you know If that's what you feel; it's much better, more considerate, and much more to the point, to start a separate thread called "Why Fighters Don't Need to Knit" or something, where you can discuss with likeminded without coming across as derailing, trolling or similar in the first thread. I sincerely hope ENWOrld will start experimenting with "plus threads" where we can finally report posts that aren't posted in the spirit of the OP. Of course, other people are free to start such threads as well. The question is: will they? After all, there exists a group that [I]won't[/I] benefit from such a moderation change is the group of posters that seldom contribute anything themselves but mostly visit to post in other people's threads, and then mostly only to argue against the premise of those threads. (This would be a very good thing :)) As a closing remark: From my perspective, the fact we are now undeniably discussing something else than the problem of D&D supplying gold but providing only downtime options for spending it, means [I]someone[/I] has successfully derailed the thread. I emphatically wish this was considered bad form, and something moderators would act upon if reported. [/QUOTE]
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