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<blockquote data-quote="tglassy" data-source="post: 7463066" data-attributes="member: 6855204"><p>I’m big on giving players choices. And I’m big on making those choices have to do with multiclassing. </p><p></p><p>I’ve always viewed Warlocks as learning their power, like a wizard, not channeling it. That’s Clerics. </p><p></p><p>The difference is Wizards learn it through Study, and warlocks learn it from a patron, giving them secrets Wizards would love to know. </p><p></p><p>So once a Warlock obtains a level, they have learned new things. They can’t have it taken away, like a Cleric or Paladin. </p><p></p><p>So what I do is have the Patron give a task. You want more power? Do this for me. </p><p></p><p>It can either be during downtime or during the next adventure, depending on the request. </p><p></p><p>If they do it, when the time comes that they should level up, they are allowed to learn more from their patron, taking another level of Warlock. </p><p></p><p>If they don’t, fail to do so, or refuse to do so, then that patron will not teach them any further. They may even begin sending hunters to kill them, depending on the circumstances. </p><p></p><p>In this case, the Warlock will have to multiclass. I’m not a fan of just switching patrons. That feels cheap to me. But maybe if there’s a good reason. </p><p></p><p>As for the requests, that depends on the patron. Fiends will start out benign, and become more and more depraved and evil as time goes on. Fey will be random and flighty, like “get me a shrubbery.” Great Old One’s will be nonsensical, like “Pour ink on all your meals for a week.” </p><p></p><p>So if you want to be a lvl 20 Fiend Warlock, you have to sacrifice an innocent on an alter at midnight. </p><p></p><p>Hey, you chose to make a pact with a demon. You want ultimate power? This is the cost. But at that point, you’ve done 19 other increasingly heinous things. I always make sure my warlocks know what they’re getting themselves into.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tglassy, post: 7463066, member: 6855204"] I’m big on giving players choices. And I’m big on making those choices have to do with multiclassing. I’ve always viewed Warlocks as learning their power, like a wizard, not channeling it. That’s Clerics. The difference is Wizards learn it through Study, and warlocks learn it from a patron, giving them secrets Wizards would love to know. So once a Warlock obtains a level, they have learned new things. They can’t have it taken away, like a Cleric or Paladin. So what I do is have the Patron give a task. You want more power? Do this for me. It can either be during downtime or during the next adventure, depending on the request. If they do it, when the time comes that they should level up, they are allowed to learn more from their patron, taking another level of Warlock. If they don’t, fail to do so, or refuse to do so, then that patron will not teach them any further. They may even begin sending hunters to kill them, depending on the circumstances. In this case, the Warlock will have to multiclass. I’m not a fan of just switching patrons. That feels cheap to me. But maybe if there’s a good reason. As for the requests, that depends on the patron. Fiends will start out benign, and become more and more depraved and evil as time goes on. Fey will be random and flighty, like “get me a shrubbery.” Great Old One’s will be nonsensical, like “Pour ink on all your meals for a week.” So if you want to be a lvl 20 Fiend Warlock, you have to sacrifice an innocent on an alter at midnight. Hey, you chose to make a pact with a demon. You want ultimate power? This is the cost. But at that point, you’ve done 19 other increasingly heinous things. I always make sure my warlocks know what they’re getting themselves into. [/QUOTE]
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