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<blockquote data-quote="Fieari" data-source="post: 2233774" data-attributes="member: 16221">The rules are there to mostly be followed.&nbsp; However, the DM is the arbiter.&nbsp; You recieve the rules from the DM, you don't dictate them to the DM.&nbsp; Sometimes, the DM is &quot;wrong&quot;.&nbsp; He misread or misunderstood the rules.&nbsp; You can point this out.&nbsp; The DM may still be in the dark, and might not understand.&nbsp; But still, you don't dictate the rules to the DM, the DM gives you the rules.&nbsp; If the DM is blind or oblivious, he's still the DM!&nbsp; You don't argue tooth and nail with the DM at the table.&nbsp; You accept the ruling at the time, you move on.&nbsp; After the game, you sit down with the DM and try to reason with him.&nbsp; You don't try to retcon what already happened, but you can try to make your case for the next session.If the DM still denies the RAW... that's part of the RAW!&nbsp; Rule Zero.&nbsp; The DM is still right.&nbsp; You can at this point continue to game with him, probably because he's given you compelling world and in most or all other cases you have no problem with his rules, or you find that this particular rule is fundamental to who you are as a person, and leave to find a new DM (or just stop playing).The DM is still always right.&nbsp; You don't dispute this at the table.&nbsp; The DM is the authority here, and needs to maintain that authority or the game will, WILL die.&nbsp; I've seen it happen far too often.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Fieari, post: 2233774, member: 16221"] The rules are there to mostly be followed. However, the DM is the arbiter. You recieve the rules from the DM, you don't dictate them [i]to[/i] the DM. Sometimes, the DM is "wrong". He misread or misunderstood the rules. You can point this out. The DM may still be in the dark, and might not understand. But still, you don't dictate the rules to the DM, the DM gives you the rules. If the DM is blind or oblivious, he's still the DM! You don't argue tooth and nail with the DM at the table. You accept the ruling at the time, you move on. After the game, you sit down with the DM and try to reason with him. You don't try to retcon what already happened, but you can try to make your case for the next session. If the DM [i]still[/i] denies the RAW... that's part of the RAW! Rule Zero. The DM is still right. You can at this point continue to game with him, probably because he's given you compelling world and in most or all other cases you have no problem with his rules, or you find that this particular rule is fundamental to who you are as a person, and leave to find a new DM (or just stop playing). The DM is still always right. You don't dispute this at the table. The DM is the authority here, and needs to maintain that authority or the game will, WILL die. I've seen it happen far too often. [/QUOTE]

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