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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 2234564" data-attributes="member: 4937">It comes down to this; all of your examples just show me that your knowledge of the rules are a hinderance to you, because as far as you seem to know they just tell you what you can't do.&nbsp; Whereas a player that doesn't know the rules doesn't know that it is 'impossible' to run over and jump on his horse.&nbsp; He might well be advised to ask first, or at least ask how difficult it would be, but his idea of how to play the game isn't limited by his knowledge of the rules. Quite the contrary, I think that that isn't a contridiction of what I said, but rather precisely my point.&nbsp; I expect my player's to act like this is the 'real world' until they learn differently, because for the most part its going to work like the real world and where it doesn't I expect them to understand that it works like a movie or a fantasy novel.&nbsp; I expect them to have a pretty good idea of how far people can jump because they've jumped ordinary jumps and seen world-record long jumps.&nbsp; I expect them to learn how far they can jump by experience, I expect those jumps to conform to thier expectations, and if they need to know how far their character can jump and don't I expect them to ask.&nbsp; I expect them to already have a basic understanding of how the world works, and I expect them to draw upon that understanding and not an understanding of the rules.&nbsp;&nbsp; Rules can be highly limiting to the imagination because there is no way a set of rules can cover every possible situation that could occur in the real world.&nbsp; I don't want players thinking that the rules cover all that can be done.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 2234564, member: 4937"] It comes down to this; all of your examples just show me that your knowledge of the rules are a hinderance to you, because as far as you seem to know they just tell you what you can't do. Whereas a player that doesn't know the rules doesn't know that it is 'impossible' to run over and jump on his horse. He might well be advised to ask first, or at least ask how difficult it would be, but his idea of how to play the game isn't limited by his knowledge of the rules. Quite the contrary, I think that that isn't a contridiction of what I said, but rather precisely my point. I expect my player's to act like this is the 'real world' until they learn differently, because for the most part its going to work like the real world and where it doesn't I expect them to understand that it works like a movie or a fantasy novel. I expect them to have a pretty good idea of how far people can jump because they've jumped ordinary jumps and seen world-record long jumps. I expect them to learn how far they can jump by experience, I expect those jumps to conform to thier expectations, and if they need to know how far their character can jump and don't I expect them to ask. I expect them to already have a basic understanding of how the world works, and I expect them to draw upon that understanding and not an understanding of the rules. Rules can be highly limiting to the imagination because there is no way a set of rules can cover every possible situation that could occur in the real world. I don't want players thinking that the rules cover all that can be done. [/QUOTE]

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