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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 2240794" data-attributes="member: 4937">Well, I told you back at the beginning of the thread that we disagreed on too fundamental of a level to even bother arguing.  I can't imagine wanting to play your way as either a PC or a DM.  You can't imagine wanting to play mine.  I don't understand what you think your way accomplishes, and you probably don't understand what I think my way accomplishes.   To a certain extent I'm stunned that anyone actually plays that way and that their groups manage to remain functional.   How could you possibly tell a group of PC's that they couldn't run around a curved track just because the rules say that they couldn't?   My PC's would be talking about a coup if I made alot of arbitrary rulings like that.You probably feel exactly the same way about me.But I would suspect that if we put it to a vote, made a poll out of it, or whatever, that a good deal of the people here when presented with the above situation would think that the DM was being an authoritarian jerk and a good deal of the people would think the player was being a rules lawyer jerk.  What's most interesting to me is that I find your way to be too authoritarian and confining to the PC's, since it seems to imply that anything that isn't implicitly allowed by the rules is forbidden - even when ordinary experience would suggest that its a perfectly reasonable thing to occur, where as you find my way to be too authoritarian and confining to the PC's because it implies that the DM is above the law and can modify it at will.Law vs. Chaos divide?</blockquote>

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