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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Seeten" data-source="post: 2243819" data-attributes="member: 27186">One of the things that strikes me here is that I would prefer to game with mature adults who are playing for the same reason I am: To have fun.The rules are only there as a frame of reference. They facilitate the adjudication, but should in no way get in the way of fun. Rules should be consistent, but also, should be in the background. I dont want rules talk, or rules lawyering, at any table I sit at, whether as a DM or Player.  Frankly, if you want to debate, go to the debate club. If you want to discuss rules, go to the ENWorld Rules forum. If you want to play D&D, go to a D&D game.I expect the rules to be in practice, in the background, in some degree. House rules are fine, changes on the fly are fine, as long as they arent stupid, heavy handed, or wasting a lot of my time. My time is precious to me. Its valuable, and I will be damned if I'll let anyone waste it arguing about %20 miss chances on magic missile. I dont care if it has one, doesnt, or never will, as long as we move along.</blockquote>