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In-game debates and rules disputes: What do you do about them?
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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 2249259" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />ulls hair out:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure, ravens and writing desks have similarities, but that doesn't mean I can usefully use the one as an analogy for the other.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's rather irrelevant. Just because similarities exist doesn't mean that you can draw inferances about one based on your understanding of the other. If raven's and writing decks have simularities (sometimes they are both black, they both have quills on them, they are both real, they both have mass, they both are found on the Earth...) doesn't mean that you can then use those simularities to demostrate that ravens are a form of furniture.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Agreed. And raven's and writing desks both have mass.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>For crying out loud, how many times do I have to say that the one doesn't follow from the other before you stop asserting this as a tautology and actually try to prove your point? For the 101st time, its impossible for the assertion "it is important to follow those rules so that everyone both understands the playing field, and can enjoy the game." to be generally true, if in fact it can be demonstrated that RPG's can be played and enjoyed even though none of the players know the rules, and that its entirely possible for the players of an RPG to understand the playing field without knowing the rules.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Which you are assuming axiomaticly despite my objections - none of which you ever do anything to address. Instead, you come up with imperfect analogies and think you've proven something of substance and that I'm clueless for not accepting that raven's are furniture.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>ARRRRGGGHHHH!!!</p><p></p><p>I'm really tempted here to say something nasty about using analogies in a debate, so I think I'm just going to shut up before a moderator has to step in. But, sheesh, you just don't get it do you?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 2249259, member: 4937"] :pulls hair out: Sure, ravens and writing desks have similarities, but that doesn't mean I can usefully use the one as an analogy for the other. That's rather irrelevant. Just because similarities exist doesn't mean that you can draw inferances about one based on your understanding of the other. If raven's and writing decks have simularities (sometimes they are both black, they both have quills on them, they are both real, they both have mass, they both are found on the Earth...) doesn't mean that you can then use those simularities to demostrate that ravens are a form of furniture. Agreed. And raven's and writing desks both have mass. For crying out loud, how many times do I have to say that the one doesn't follow from the other before you stop asserting this as a tautology and actually try to prove your point? For the 101st time, its impossible for the assertion "it is important to follow those rules so that everyone both understands the playing field, and can enjoy the game." to be generally true, if in fact it can be demonstrated that RPG's can be played and enjoyed even though none of the players know the rules, and that its entirely possible for the players of an RPG to understand the playing field without knowing the rules. Which you are assuming axiomaticly despite my objections - none of which you ever do anything to address. Instead, you come up with imperfect analogies and think you've proven something of substance and that I'm clueless for not accepting that raven's are furniture. ARRRRGGGHHHH!!! I'm really tempted here to say something nasty about using analogies in a debate, so I think I'm just going to shut up before a moderator has to step in. But, sheesh, you just don't get it do you? [/QUOTE]
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