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<blockquote data-quote="FireLance" data-source="post: 1828883" data-attributes="member: 3424">Hate to sound repetitive, but I go with a mix of the suggestions already mentioned.1. The players can work together to solve the puzzle to simulate the effect of high-intelligence characters (who may be smarter than any of the players).2. Characters can make relevant Knowledge, Intelligence or Bardic Lore checks to gain clues (really obvious clues for high rolls).3. Solving a puzzle is never a requirement. The PCs can still get through on brute strength and luck. Solving a puzzle might allow the PCs to bypass an encounter (but they get an equal amount of XP for solving the puzzle), earn them a item that is particularly useful against the BBEG (bane ammunition, for example), allow them to discover some special ability or weakness of the BBEG which they can prepare for or exploit.Standing around and twiddling thumbs while trying to solve a puzzle may happen in books and movies, but it is a real pain to play through.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FireLance, post: 1828883, member: 3424"] Hate to sound repetitive, but I go with a mix of the suggestions already mentioned. 1. The players can work together to solve the puzzle to simulate the effect of high-intelligence characters (who may be smarter than any of the players). 2. Characters can make relevant Knowledge, Intelligence or Bardic Lore checks to gain clues (really obvious clues for high rolls). 3. Solving a puzzle is never a requirement. The PCs can still get through on brute strength and luck. Solving a puzzle might allow the PCs to bypass an encounter (but they get an equal amount of XP for solving the puzzle), earn them a item that is particularly useful against the BBEG ([I]bane[/I] ammunition, for example), allow them to discover some special ability or weakness of the BBEG which they can prepare for or exploit. Standing around and twiddling thumbs while trying to solve a puzzle may happen in books and movies, but it is a real pain to play through. [/QUOTE]

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