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<blockquote data-quote="Sigg" data-source="post: 2348657" data-attributes="member: 30546"><p>If the party has been told about the evil, what more proof do they need? Other than witnessing the beating and torture for themselves what more proof could they get? Perhaps someone who can cast clairvoyance can show them a beating/torture session.....maybe they could obtain an article of clothing from a victim for that purpose. This, of course, would depend on said article not being able to used against Mr. Evil...maybe due to mainstream predjudice...or perhaps the article can get "lost" somehow. Also, how much proof they actually require seems to me would depend more on where they fall on the law/chaos axis....chaotic or neutral goods might not need as much incentive to act as the more law-bound heroes. Another important detail is what social/governmental system is in place...in a feudalistic system, the bad-guy's word alone might be good enough to refute almost any level of proof from "mere commoners", and that's even without greasing palms. Combined with the testimonials of common folk who have benefitted from our nefarious villian's "benevolence" any proof short of a public demonstration by the evil one himself might be insufficient to convince most of his guilt. Heck, we've seen that in modern times <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> Of course that would also all depend on what kind of arcane/divine means are in place for determining these sorts of things. On the other hand bad priest guy could appeal to his own god for protection too.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sigg, post: 2348657, member: 30546"] If the party has been told about the evil, what more proof do they need? Other than witnessing the beating and torture for themselves what more proof could they get? Perhaps someone who can cast clairvoyance can show them a beating/torture session.....maybe they could obtain an article of clothing from a victim for that purpose. This, of course, would depend on said article not being able to used against Mr. Evil...maybe due to mainstream predjudice...or perhaps the article can get "lost" somehow. Also, how much proof they actually require seems to me would depend more on where they fall on the law/chaos axis....chaotic or neutral goods might not need as much incentive to act as the more law-bound heroes. Another important detail is what social/governmental system is in place...in a feudalistic system, the bad-guy's word alone might be good enough to refute almost any level of proof from "mere commoners", and that's even without greasing palms. Combined with the testimonials of common folk who have benefitted from our nefarious villian's "benevolence" any proof short of a public demonstration by the evil one himself might be insufficient to convince most of his guilt. Heck, we've seen that in modern times ;) Of course that would also all depend on what kind of arcane/divine means are in place for determining these sorts of things. On the other hand bad priest guy could appeal to his own god for protection too. [/QUOTE]
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