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In need of help for a 3.5 Warlock based build (considering Eldritch Theurge/Disciple, Ur priest, Sublime Chord)
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<blockquote data-quote="Jackinthegreen" data-source="post: 6174100" data-attributes="member: 6678119"><p>Given your goal for optimizing, you might be better off posting over at <a href="http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php" target="_blank">MinMaxBoards</a> if you want really in depth advice.</p><p></p><p>However, some quick things: You'll want to sit down with your DM and nail down exactly how Eldritch Glaive works. A reason for this is if you can use Power Attack with it (since it becomes a physical weapon you can make AoOs with), then you could probably get some good damage from it. You'll also want to see whether it can even benefit from Weapon Finesse since glaives are 2-handed weapons after all, and your DM might rule you have to use it in two hands. Only a few exotic 2h weapons can be finessed, so good luck getting EG to benefit from that. You may also want to find out whether the DM will allow EG to work as a full attack action rather than a full round action. The former means you could benefit from Haste and other effects that add attacks, but the latter means you won't be able to benefit from most of those because they only work will a full attack, not a full round action. That and the wording in EG itself specifically prohibits getting extra attacks since you're only allowed attacks from BAB. You'll also want to ask whether Mortalbane applies to each attack of EG, or just one of them.</p><p></p><p>If you're going heavily into stuff reliant on Turn/Rebuke Undead, how prevalent will items that boost those be, especially Nightsticks from Libris Mortis, page 78? The balanced view on nightsticks is you can only benefit from one at a time, but the book itself does not say whether the turn or rebuke uses stack, which most have interpreted to mean they do stack since it's effectively the <a href="http://dndtools.eu/feats/players-handbook-v35--6/extra-turning--1050/" target="_blank">Extra Turning</a> feat, which is explicitly able to be taken more than once.</p><p></p><p>You might want to look at <a href="http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=252715" target="_blank">The New Warlock Handbook</a> to get a take on the various things available to you in order to perhaps tweak your build ideas.</p><p></p><p>Edit: Ah, I see you've already posted there. In which case, I suppose I'll move all this stuff over to MMB.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jackinthegreen, post: 6174100, member: 6678119"] Given your goal for optimizing, you might be better off posting over at [URL="http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php"]MinMaxBoards[/URL] if you want really in depth advice. However, some quick things: You'll want to sit down with your DM and nail down exactly how Eldritch Glaive works. A reason for this is if you can use Power Attack with it (since it becomes a physical weapon you can make AoOs with), then you could probably get some good damage from it. You'll also want to see whether it can even benefit from Weapon Finesse since glaives are 2-handed weapons after all, and your DM might rule you have to use it in two hands. Only a few exotic 2h weapons can be finessed, so good luck getting EG to benefit from that. You may also want to find out whether the DM will allow EG to work as a full attack action rather than a full round action. The former means you could benefit from Haste and other effects that add attacks, but the latter means you won't be able to benefit from most of those because they only work will a full attack, not a full round action. That and the wording in EG itself specifically prohibits getting extra attacks since you're only allowed attacks from BAB. You'll also want to ask whether Mortalbane applies to each attack of EG, or just one of them. If you're going heavily into stuff reliant on Turn/Rebuke Undead, how prevalent will items that boost those be, especially Nightsticks from Libris Mortis, page 78? The balanced view on nightsticks is you can only benefit from one at a time, but the book itself does not say whether the turn or rebuke uses stack, which most have interpreted to mean they do stack since it's effectively the [URL="http://dndtools.eu/feats/players-handbook-v35--6/extra-turning--1050/"]Extra Turning[/URL] feat, which is explicitly able to be taken more than once. You might want to look at [URL="http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=252715"]The New Warlock Handbook[/URL] to get a take on the various things available to you in order to perhaps tweak your build ideas. Edit: Ah, I see you've already posted there. In which case, I suppose I'll move all this stuff over to MMB. [/QUOTE]
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