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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mmadsen" data-source="post: 243594" data-attributes="member: 1645">But they serve the same purpose, more or less, right?  In both small RPG combats and large wargame combats, we want to set appropriate challenges -- or we want to know just how skewed the odds are against the guys defending the Alamo.I'm not sure how that demonstrates that they're completely unrelated.  What if we renormalized all the Chainmail point values so that a Glaiver was CR 1.0, a Marine 0.625, and a Swiftwing Disciple 0.875?I can certainly see why Chainmail would want a greater level of detail in point values, since first-level Fighters in full plate with halberds are much tougher than first-level Fighters in leather with shields and handaxes -- and those are the kind of differences you'll see between forces.A more important issue would be measuring circumstance bonuses and penalties to CR, since archers defending a castle are far tougher than those same archers across an open field.</blockquote>