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<blockquote data-quote="mmadsen" data-source="post: 243916" data-attributes="member: 1645">So what are you suggesting the DM uses for guidelines when putting together an enemy army that will challenge the PCs' army? &nbsp;Is an Ogre in Full Plate with a Masterwork Greatsword tougher than one with no armor and no weapons?&nbsp; Of course!&nbsp; Should the CR system reflect this?&nbsp; Maybe, maybe not.&nbsp; It might not be worth the extra complexity when the DM can just eyeball an appropriate EL and experience reward.&nbsp; If your game revolves around legions of low-level soldiers with vastly different equipment though, doesn't it make sense to take that into account?&nbsp;It's hardly rewriting anything to add in fractional values between the whole CRs; it's just adding a level of detail where it might make sense.&nbsp;Can the PCs' army of 1000 elves hold off the Dark Lord's army of 1000 trolls?&nbsp; Or should I, as DM, make it an army of 900 trolls?&nbsp; 500?&nbsp; 450?&nbsp; Whole-number CRs may not give the detail I need.(As an aside, ELs aren't linear; maybe point values shouldn't simply sum up either.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mmadsen, post: 243916, member: 1645"] So what are you suggesting the DM uses for guidelines when putting together an enemy army that will challenge the PCs' army? Is an Ogre in Full Plate with a Masterwork Greatsword tougher than one with no armor and no weapons? Of course! Should the CR system reflect this? Maybe, maybe not. It might not be worth the extra complexity when the DM can just eyeball an appropriate EL and experience reward. If your game revolves around legions of low-level soldiers with vastly different equipment though, doesn't it make sense to take that into account? It's hardly rewriting anything to add in fractional values between the whole CRs; it's just adding a level of detail where it might make sense. Can the PCs' army of 1000 elves hold off the Dark Lord's army of 1000 trolls? Or should I, as DM, make it an army of 900 trolls? 500? 450? Whole-number CRs may not give the detail I need. (As an aside, ELs aren't linear; maybe point values shouldn't simply sum up either.) [/QUOTE]

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