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<blockquote data-quote="VoodooGroves" data-source="post: 245499" data-attributes="member: 5520"><p><strong>Pewter vs plastic</strong></p><p></p><p>Ye gods!</p><p></p><p>Most of the hardcore war gamers I know collect in a specific way.</p><p></p><p>First, you buy some kicking and deadly cool looking miniatures for your front line troops.</p><p></p><p>Second, you find a game (Battlemasters, Crossbows and Catapults, Dungeon Strike, Hero Quest, etc.) that has acceptable plastic minis you can use to fill out your units.</p><p></p><p>I have alot of metal miniautres. Hundreds - easily. But there's no way I'd have the mojo to build an entire army (or a few armies) out of metal minis. Cripes, I must have 500 dwarves, but only 50 or so are metal. Undead, probably 75 metal, 300 plastic.</p><p></p><p>It comes down to economic terms. Most of my friends (we're all pretty much 30 somethings - a few older, few younger) STILL cruise the game aisles and discount toy stores looking for plunder. Hech, the other day I'm at the Barnes & Noble with my wife...I'm over checking out audio books and I meet her and my daughter at the checkout. My daughter is holding this discount "excavate and build your own mastadon" activity kit. I say to my wife (who's an archaeologist) "Starting young huh? Never to early is it?".</p><p></p><p>She says "Its for you. I figured since it was $3 you'd want it to glue a little plastic skeleton on."</p><p></p><p>I say "Excellent!"</p><p></p><p>She says "There were only 3 left, so that's what I got for you."</p><p></p><p>Love. True love. </p><p></p><p>Back to wargame reality. There are, of course, some people out there who, for instance, play Napoleonic period wargames and have little rules like: "All miniatures must be metal" or worse yet "All miniatures have to be painted". Sure, Games Workshop insists you only use painted miniatures for their games as well, but really - forget them. But the Napoleonic guys (and gals I guess, although I've never met one) tend to go one step further ... "Um, we're enacting an EARLY PERIOD BATTLE you moron. You can't have a unit of muskets in green coats and yellow trim unless this is a MIDDLE OR LATE PERIOD battle. You can't use those unless you want to paint red stripes on them now."</p><p></p><p>By and large, however, must wargamers I know who still collect figures don't really have the disposable income to drop $400 on metal miniatures to build a new army. Instead, alot of creative improvising and plundering of other packaged games goes into the creation of their armies.</p><p></p><p>As far as wargame rules, I sent something off to Ranger Wickett to review. I hope he likes it and it can be part of the Natural20 community-developed stuff. If he doesn't, maybe I'll just post the PDF here or work out some better way to disseminate the info...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="VoodooGroves, post: 245499, member: 5520"] [b]Pewter vs plastic[/b] Ye gods! Most of the hardcore war gamers I know collect in a specific way. First, you buy some kicking and deadly cool looking miniatures for your front line troops. Second, you find a game (Battlemasters, Crossbows and Catapults, Dungeon Strike, Hero Quest, etc.) that has acceptable plastic minis you can use to fill out your units. I have alot of metal miniautres. Hundreds - easily. But there's no way I'd have the mojo to build an entire army (or a few armies) out of metal minis. Cripes, I must have 500 dwarves, but only 50 or so are metal. Undead, probably 75 metal, 300 plastic. It comes down to economic terms. Most of my friends (we're all pretty much 30 somethings - a few older, few younger) STILL cruise the game aisles and discount toy stores looking for plunder. Hech, the other day I'm at the Barnes & Noble with my wife...I'm over checking out audio books and I meet her and my daughter at the checkout. My daughter is holding this discount "excavate and build your own mastadon" activity kit. I say to my wife (who's an archaeologist) "Starting young huh? Never to early is it?". She says "Its for you. I figured since it was $3 you'd want it to glue a little plastic skeleton on." I say "Excellent!" She says "There were only 3 left, so that's what I got for you." Love. True love. Back to wargame reality. There are, of course, some people out there who, for instance, play Napoleonic period wargames and have little rules like: "All miniatures must be metal" or worse yet "All miniatures have to be painted". Sure, Games Workshop insists you only use painted miniatures for their games as well, but really - forget them. But the Napoleonic guys (and gals I guess, although I've never met one) tend to go one step further ... "Um, we're enacting an EARLY PERIOD BATTLE you moron. You can't have a unit of muskets in green coats and yellow trim unless this is a MIDDLE OR LATE PERIOD battle. You can't use those unless you want to paint red stripes on them now." By and large, however, must wargamers I know who still collect figures don't really have the disposable income to drop $400 on metal miniatures to build a new army. Instead, alot of creative improvising and plundering of other packaged games goes into the creation of their armies. As far as wargame rules, I sent something off to Ranger Wickett to review. I hope he likes it and it can be part of the Natural20 community-developed stuff. If he doesn't, maybe I'll just post the PDF here or work out some better way to disseminate the info... [/QUOTE]
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