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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 2569256" data-attributes="member: 172">Really, no. It may be an acheivement that the party defeated a band of goblins. But in no wise would I consider it the same level of acheivement as defeating the great wyrm who has been plauging the kingdom.Not one sentence of the above shows any correlation between level and wargameness of playstyle. The players could be yawning throught the RP before beating up orcs just as easy as Dragons.So? I think you miss the point. Player ingenuity can come into play at either level. Like the minis thing above, it's a different issue than player empowerment.Yes, but any of thousands of fighters in the world could have taken out that orc. It taking out that balrog is a lot headier acheivement, in the grasp of far fewer characters.Players typically aren't content to be a private on the field of battle. They'd much rather be legolas taking down a fully manned war oliphaunt by his lonesome. That's the stuff of heady fantasy.Fair enough, as that is pretty much the way I feel. But again, low level games are anything but an uncommon experience. But are you decrying that people have different appeals than you do?I don't agree. I want my experience with D&D to be entirely unlike my real life career. I come to D&D to play legendary, exceptional individuals.As I perceive it, it is you who is faulting others by ladling on the pejorative descriptions of experiences you don't enjoy. I hope you can understand why I might feel a little defensive when you use characterizations like "he-man" and "planet busting swords".</blockquote>

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