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<blockquote data-quote="FrozenNorth" data-source="post: 8793588" data-attributes="member: 7020832">Yes.&nbsp; A lot of posts of the forum (mine included) are just “spitting in the wind”.&nbsp; Yes, it would be great if 5e worked harder to balance the classes across all pillars, but realistically, this is a major change that would involve a lot of errata and rewriting of spells and class features.But this is different.&nbsp; The DMG IS being rewritten by Chris Perkins.&nbsp; The only question is “what changes should be made?”. So discussions about what people like and dislike in the 2014 DMG have some use.There is also a secondary point:&nbsp; the DMG SHOULD be rewritten.&nbsp; The 2014 DMG was written for the 2014 D&amp;D market: sure, WotC wanted to reach out to “boys aged 10-14”, but the larger part of the 2014 D&amp;D market was players of BECMI, AD&amp;D, 3rd ed., Pathfinder and 4th ed., most of which were from late 20s to late 50s.The 2023 D&amp;D market looks very different from the 2014 market.&nbsp; There are a lot more girls and women, more minorities, and crucially, due to the success of 5e, the majority of the market probably started with 5e.&nbsp; It skews a lot younger, and their perception of D&amp;D has been shaped a lot more by CR than Jack Vance or Chainmail.Stuff in the 2014 DMG that isn’t used by most of the market can probably be dropped.&nbsp; Very few games reach high levels (and the planar cosmology doesn’t even exist in some campaign settings), so planar travel may be dropped.&nbsp; I suspect that the 10 pages of tables for randomizing settlements awkwardly stuck in the middle of the book will also likely be dropped.But it’s not just about the 2023 market.&nbsp; It’s also about what else is being done at WotC and in the industry.&nbsp; Will 2023 DMG keep the Honour and Renown variant rule?&nbsp; Probably not if it gets reprinted in greater detail in Dragonlance.&nbsp; Same thing for variant rules on gritty play or hexcrawling if WotC announces Greyhawk and sticks the rules in there.Clocks are big on the RPG scene, so we may see D&amp;D’s take on clocks in the 2023 DMG.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FrozenNorth, post: 8793588, member: 7020832"] Yes. A lot of posts of the forum (mine included) are just “spitting in the wind”. Yes, it would be great if 5e worked harder to balance the classes across all pillars, but realistically, this is a major change that would involve a lot of errata and rewriting of spells and class features. But this is different. The DMG [I]IS[/I] being rewritten by Chris Perkins. The only question is “what changes should be made?”. So discussions about what people like and dislike in the 2014 DMG have some use. There is also a secondary point: the DMG SHOULD be rewritten. The 2014 DMG was written for the 2014 D&D market: sure, WotC wanted to reach out to “boys aged 10-14”, but the larger part of the 2014 D&D market was players of BECMI, AD&D, 3rd ed., Pathfinder and 4th ed., most of which were from late 20s to late 50s. The 2023 D&D market looks very different from the 2014 market. There are a lot more girls and women, more minorities, and crucially, due to the success of 5e, the majority of the market probably started with 5e. It skews a lot younger, and their perception of D&D has been shaped a lot more by CR than Jack Vance or Chainmail. Stuff in the 2014 DMG that isn’t used by most of the market can probably be dropped. Very few games reach high levels (and the planar cosmology doesn’t even exist in some campaign settings), so planar travel may be dropped. I suspect that the 10 pages of tables for randomizing settlements awkwardly stuck in the middle of the book will also likely be dropped. But it’s not just about the 2023 market. It’s also about what else is being done at WotC and in the industry. Will 2023 DMG keep the Honour and Renown variant rule? Probably not if it gets reprinted in greater detail in Dragonlance. Same thing for variant rules on gritty play or hexcrawling if WotC announces Greyhawk and sticks the rules in there. Clocks are big on the RPG scene, so we may see D&D’s take on clocks in the 2023 DMG. [/QUOTE]

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