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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 8794746" data-attributes="member: 48965">And like I said, I'm experiencing it right now... Getting players who have only played adventures where the story or plot is the driving factor (or where this is their expectation) takes effort to get them to switch over.I mean you can think what you want but I'm experiencing it right now.  My veteran players are pretty good at differentiating it (but it could be because I usually run this type of game)... my beginning players not so much.  Just getting them to decide on a goal for their character necessitated alot of back and forth, explanation and suggestions...Then we moved into the... "well what do I do phase"  AKA... the phase where I noticed the veteran players were advancing their goals while the beginning players weren't really doing anything except helping them... again discussion with new players so that they understood better that they needed to seek out information to achieve their goals and some ways they could go about that, a discussion with the veteran players to get them more onboard with helping the beginning players achieve their goals as opposed to only driving towards their own, and finally reminding all of them that exploration in and of itself (outside of immediate goals) could lead to new goals.  And I honestly still feel like the new players are unsure at times about how to proceed but they are getting better.  I mean maybe this seems easy to you but I honestly think it would have been much easier if I had run a linear adventure where the overarching story gave them all a singular motivation, driver and reason to work together while limiting exploration opportunities out of the box.EDIT: Yeah I'm having a hard time as I actually think about this and write this stuff categorizing the play of our game now as the same as when we played through the adventure in the starter set as an introduction... but I guess that's just me.</blockquote>

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