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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hawkeyefan" data-source="post: 8800247" data-attributes="member: 6785785">Yes. It's more often a case of saying it should not be changed. But by necessity that means it cannot be improved. You can't improve something without changing it.I get to decide how it seems to me. So far, the reasons put forth to not change the book have mostly amounted to losing something... either in the form of making room for something else, or in the form of losing what the DMG is "meant" to be in the form of optional rules for DMs (which I don't agree must or should be the case).I haven't seen any argument that doesn't boil down to that gut reaction to resist change. Most people who are arguing for the DMG to remain as is are entirely beyond the need of such a book.... which is what is really amazing to me.The OP jokes that no one reads the DMG... but does not want it to become a book that people would actually read. It's remarkable, really.Only so far as offering actual different styles of play and then saying how to achieve those styles. Not to present only one way to play. But to offer actual advice on those styles. To actually identify and define those styles and then talk about how to promote them in play, or which styles can be blended, or when to use one style as opposed to another.The advice in the book is poorly organized, buried in prose, not properly cross referenced, sparse, and very often of minimal actual use.However, yes some of the information that is currently in there should remain. It's more about how it's presented and to what extent.That one or two people have said that doesn't mean specifics have not been given. I'll only share those I've already suggested throughout the thread, but there have been others.<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Reorder the chapters and the information presented in a way that's more intuitive to new DMs, but without impacting an experienced DM's ability to reference the book in play as needed.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Focus on layout and presentation- whenever possible, stick to topics remaining on a single page, or a single spread of pages.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Get rid of the double columns of prose as the default format.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Take sections that are minimal and expand them. Like the one page 6 about "Types of Players"; each of these could use some pretty significant expansion.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Cross reference related elements. "This is how you can cater to the 'Optimizing Player' (see page 6)". Give advice and examples in each section on how to cater to the different player types. Group them up in easily viewable and understandable charts or lists.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Provide a sample adventure location, and use that example throughout the book. Maybe use Phandelver as the default. Or alternatively, put an example online for free that folks can reference. Use that location as a way to explain all the methods in the book. </li> </ul>There's a whole Avernus worth for you.</blockquote>

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