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<blockquote data-quote="Uller" data-source="post: 5951838" data-attributes="member: 413">Oh, I don't think it's only a problem in 4e. Before 4e, if a giant &quot;hits&quot; a 10th level wizard for 15 hp damage (enough to outright kill a low level fighter) the wizard still can act as if he is completely unhurt (did the giant actually hit him? How did the wizard survive?) and then a cleric &quot;heals&quot; him with a &quot;cure&quot; spell, what the heck does that even mean?&nbsp; Nothing at all other than changes in a number on your character sheet.&nbsp; If I look at it as morale or luck and you look at it as somehow he took a bump but managed to roll with it, fine.&nbsp; Yes, 4e introduced a very different play style and I agree, it's a little too easy to jump right back up into the fight.&nbsp; 5e seems to take a step back toward older editions.&nbsp;&nbsp; But I have no problem seeing someone inspiring a comrade to shake it off and get back into the fight and having that be reflected in an hp gain (or temp HP or a bonus to defenses or grant a free save or what have you)Sure...it's play style.&nbsp; To each his own.&nbsp; But when someone (no, not you) says that another person's way of looking at a game where adults pretend to be wizards who shoot lightning from their bums&nbsp; is &quot;silly&quot;, well...it's a game.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Uller, post: 5951838, member: 413"] Oh, I don't think it's only a problem in 4e. Before 4e, if a giant "hits" a 10th level wizard for 15 hp damage (enough to outright kill a low level fighter) the wizard still can act as if he is completely unhurt (did the giant actually hit him? How did the wizard survive?) and then a cleric "heals" him with a "cure" spell, what the heck does that even mean? Nothing at all other than changes in a number on your character sheet. If I look at it as morale or luck and you look at it as somehow he took a bump but managed to roll with it, fine. Yes, 4e introduced a very different play style and I agree, it's a little too easy to jump right back up into the fight. 5e seems to take a step back toward older editions. But I have no problem seeing someone inspiring a comrade to shake it off and get back into the fight and having that be reflected in an hp gain (or temp HP or a bonus to defenses or grant a free save or what have you) Sure...it's play style. To each his own. But when someone (no, not you) says that another person's way of looking at a game where adults pretend to be wizards who shoot lightning from their bums is "silly", well...it's a game. [/QUOTE]

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